Stand UP for the Blue Line
Wisconsin
This is not bowhunting related. I believe this will be a closed topic. I believe that this site is going the wrong way.... But since I have some time to talk to everyone, I ask you this.......SUPPORT THE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE....
Things are dire. A Tosa officer is under siege, shot at yesterday by assholes, who the people on top, refuse to arrest...... Unlike most, a lot of unions supported Evers,,, no more, he cares little about LEOs. the reason Republicans did not get much support in the past, is that most, want cops, but as cheap as they can pay them......
There are no winners, but wake up because things are getting bad. I am retired, but tomorrow will drive down to Tosa, to protect an officers safe guard.......
At this point, make a stand, you have a choice, do you want law and order or chaos,,,,
Again I am sure this post will be gone, but either Democrat or Republican, stand by the blue line,,,, its all you have.....
I worked in the 70 and 80 and 90's, we would not have put up this this BS, different days today,,,,, Most cities no matter what you hear, from Green Bay to Superior, to La Crosse to Eau Claire, to Madison to Waukesha, their leaders are weak
I hope you all wake up
Most Leo's are leaving cause of the reasons you described. Most part-time officers in the Marathon Co area are earning under $13 and they have to buy their own gear. What kind of people do you think you're going to recruit with that wage?
The issues of today are even more reason why my son wants to become a police officer. Right now more than any time in history, young white officers have the opportunity to become part of the neighborhoods they patrol and change the perspective of the kids. We do need to stand for law enforcement and the behavior of certain people in recent past has been abhorrent but the only way to make a real change is to start from the ground up. This young generation can relate to each other and respect differences more than any generation that’s preceded them. We are seeing a group of young men who are joining the police force not for a pension but because they want to make a real difference in their world today and I’m excited for our future. Change doesn’t happen overnight but we’ll get there.
Well said, and good on you. In our rural area this would never happen, It is a said state when our leaders allow this to happen!
I actually drove by the BLM thing that was on North avenue that headed to Tosa where there shootings happened. I was driving on the opposite side of North ave. I asked my wife if she thinks I would be pulled over if I was driving and people were hanging out of the windows or the sunroof. I feel certain I would have been.
I agree with you groundhunter. This world is becoming more f'ed up daily. People want to defund the police and I'm sure (sarcasm) that would lead to a more peaceful USA.
I agree, fully support our men and women who risk their lives every single day to keep us safe. This country is currently headed in a bad direction.
Support law enforcement.
And most importantly get out and vote. Elections have consequences.
Ask yourself do you want to live in a society governed by the rule of law? Or do you want antifa burning down your city without repercussions because the people in power agree with their tactics and movement.
Modern day Sodom and Gemorah.
Yes I do support the Blue and cannot believe we are in a time where the evidently unlawful people of this country are getting people to think that we don't need police or law. How insane is this? Leave it to the Liberals/Democrats. I see the state of Washington voted to start cutting funding of the Police. The Democratic party of now needs to be stopped, this is unbelievable.
The bottom line is socialism is being accepted by the mainstream which goes against the morals of our law and order foundation, break that and just chaos to the road of predation.
I have no idea where that deer picture came from. Coming from a family of cops and was almost one myself I certainly back the badge. The most thankless job a person can have in the world we live in today. The wolf has some how convinced the sheep that the sheepdog is the dangerous one and must be removed. I pray for the sheep when the sheepdog is gone and the wolf has all the sheep to himself.
As a police officer just outside of Chicago I appreciate everyone’s views here on this site. The new generation that always asks “why” rather than just doing what your your told is part of the problem. Rather than people adapting to society, society has to adapt to people.
Look at all of the complaining that goes on just on this site. Guns, crossbows, baiting, wolves..... Rather than keeping things the same because of complaints and politics laws are changed.
The common theme is these places are all ran by the democrats. They are appeasing the fringe, don't want to offend anyone and become a target themselves or worse yet loose their vote. Gutless! These so called protesters need to be knocked down hard. This Police officer shot an armed suspect who already discharged his gun and was going into the mall. This Guy is a hero!
I would like to remind people that the elected people that hold office in Washington DC are elected servants of the people in the districts they represent. They are NOT leaders or dictators, they are servants of the people. The only position in a leadership role is the POTUS. Right now most all think of themselves as elected leaders, or elites and that we should bow to their wishes. Our elected officials and the justice system have failed us miserably. What’s worse is the justice system can not be trusted. Now I’m not talking about the police and LEO’s it’s way higher than that within the FBI and other agencies not prosecuting injustices and conducting illegal actions under false pretenses.
I keep forgetting, is this a bow hunting forum or a political one? Go somewhere else to talk politics.
Skip the thread if it is not enough hunting for you. These are some crazy times we are living in and a little discussion is fine unless you are part of the cancel culture that refuses to allow contrary opinions, beliefs, ideas to be expressed freely and openly. Or start a new hunting thread...
What ever happened to look the other way if you don’t like something? Jeez, everyone is supposed to filter their lives to appease the few.
Our law enforcement, and the potential demise of America, is far more important than any bowhunting topics. If the Socialists win, good luck hunting to the next generation. They will be hunting each other.
You have to realize we become a group of friends on this site. As groups of friends do, they discuss different subjects in there discussions. Nothing wrong with that, if you don't like it, don't go into it.
Yes, and your little group of friends overwhelm this site constantly with political crap. You throw it in n every thread that you can. Why should I have to look away from political threads when they have no business being on here in the first place? Seems like you're all doing exactly the same thing as those darn socialists.
You do realize maintaining or expanding archery hunting is a political process?
Jr...you do know the meaning of "Socialism", correct?
"Our law enforcement, and the potential demise of America, is far more important than any bowhunting topics"
This is correct, but I'll go one further. Not just more important than any bowhunting topic, THE most important bowhunting topic. If you don't like it quit your whining and beat it.
Liberalism and the Marxism that drives it today is the greatest evil on the planet. Hunting of all kinds will become a fantasy of the past in time, if we allow them to have their way. Look at what is happening today, and being taught in our schools. Cops are bad and criminals are good. You are evil because you are white. "They have a right to steal because they are owed reparations, and those businesses have insurance anyway". The moon is just the sun at night. Tell sheep the same lies over and over again and they will buy it hook line and hand over their billfold. "They" are telling us what we the people can say, AND now what we can think. "They" are telling us what we will see as right, and what we will see as wrong. They tell us how good an organization is when the people at the top are all anti-Semitic avowed Marxists who want to "change the western nuclear family" more to their image. A group that has direct ties to terrorist groups like Antifa. A group who openly practices racism and the hating of America. And we are to honor this group? Only an America hating racist or an ignorant sheep would.
My experience while active is not on a local level, but all of our law enforcement is under attack. Not just from the scum, from liberals in power in our cities, states, and from federal power pawns. It's going to take an active role from we the people to come to their aid, we need to start to support them at a level that will overwhelm the opposition. It starts right here, with conversation. The voting booth is the next stop. Local, state, and federal.
As per Rep. David Bowen-(D-10th District)
.. “During this important era of activism, I make it my duty to go out everyday with protestors to make sure that the citizens fighting for change in this critical moment aren't taken advantage of or repressed by authorities. My presence as an elected official speaks volumes to people we come in contact with. What I observed on Saturday outside Officer Mensah’s home was an out-of-control, yelling & aggressive man that came out of his house with the goal to provoke peaceful protestors and incite violence.”
What a positive influence Rep. Bowen is to his constituents......protesting everyday. At least his hatred is colorblind.
Most people do not understand how tough being a Cop is . I was a Cop for 8 months in Milw County. EVERY single person you pull over or Halt could be the one that ,s on the run & shoots you as you approach them . Try living with that every single day for years .
I was chasing a Rapist thru a huge Apt complex one nite . A group of 3 women yelled " he went thru that door " . I opened the door on the run , S&W m10 in hand . There was no floor or steps . I flew thru the air & landed 15 feet down into an unfinished basement . The 3 women staring down at me & laughing . One did get some help for me .
Its a brutal job that they do every Day, Month & Year . Hi suicide, Drinking & Drug rates .
In 8 months I met some great cops & not so great Cops .
Sometime in the mid 70's I and friend of mine were looking for a bar called 'the nickel bag' in Chicago and having trouble finding it. (no gps back then) We got to a bad area and kind of knew it. Luckily a cop saw us and knew we could get in trouble. He escorted us to safe ground. Many thanks went to that officer.
This is Bowsite after all.
Plenty of political chat sites to go to and not muck up Pat’s Bowsite. His rules after all. These days rules are made to be broken.
To bad Pat closed down the community forum on bowsite . It was a great avenue for these types of discussions. I went there more often than the hunting side most times of the year.
Ground hunter started a thread on the main forum. it was locked rather quickly almost same day.
This one should survive a few days . The powers to be don’t cruise here to often.
Flame on }
I support the Blue and donate money when they call.
Huntcell,,,, I completely understand,,,,, I was at a point the other day, where it was at, that the blue line was under siege, and we were calling in for air support...... But I understand, what you say...............
That's racist!! We can do what we want!! Signed,. Today's youth. We r screwed!!!!
That's racist!! We can do what we want!! Signed,. Today's youth. We r screwed!!!!
I back the blue and any thread doing the same. If you have a problem with this type of thread, don't read it. Better yet if you do read it, don't respond. Because if you are responding in the negative to this thread. You are probably missing your BLM protest.
Anyone bitching about this thread is indeed, part of the problem. Pathetic little whiners.
Lol this whole thread I almost entirely whining....
Go to a back the badge campaign.
I support the blue line but in not going to cry and throw a temper tantrum like other thinking....
The BLM movement....... Burn......Loot.....Murder....... That's Entertainment ???????
Arrow, they are able to get away with these crimes due to the apathy you have noted.
Thanks for starting this thread. There are a lot of officers, deputies, detectives and agents out there that need to hear we support them.
"The new generation that always asks “why” rather than just doing what your your told is part of the problem. Rather than people adapting to society, society has to adapt to people. " WOW !!! just WOW !!!!
Its that time of year when many are looking to put new tires on their hunting rig. Before you buy Good Year tires read this link. I've bought my last Good Year.
Saw this on Fox news this morning. No Goodyear products for me.
Most police cars have a good Year tires lol
I always knew Goodyears were worthless soft tires! Didn't know they were that soft..
There are so many companies that we shouldn't buy from, it's hard to keep track. I'd like to see a well organized list sorting these companies out and why we shouldn't buy them. It's easy to not buy Good Year or Nike, but you often do not even know you're buying from some of them. Cisco Systems an example. Is General Tire any better? Firestone? BF Goodrich? Is Cooper still made in America and any better?
Unless you completely live off the grid, you’re buying foreign for the majority of your stuff. Impossible to avoid.
I agree, it is almost impossible to keep on top of whether you're buying foreign or domestic, and for the most part I've given up that battle, HOWEVER...when a company like Goodyear comes out with bullsh!t like this as part of their training program and it becomes public knowledge, well, all bets are off and on principal alone I would NEVER buy another Goodyear tire again...just like I will never step foot in a Target again for some of the stupid things they've done all in the name of political correctness. I'm sure Goodyear don't give a rats ass about whether I buy from them or not, but I do, and I won't..
I buy Uniroyal - Made right here in the USA.
Getting my new Goodyear's put on later today.
For your training wheels Jr1972?
This stuff cracks me up. Everyone is quick to boycott, until it inconveniences them. Reminds of the post awhile back on the big game forum about Dicks Sporting Goods. They stopped selling guns and ammo, and they were the devil and the world was ending. But when Walmart started making the same moves, crickets. It’s unavoidable at this point. I guess nobody realizes that they are filling up there American assembled trucks with foreign parts with gas from our sworn enemies in the Middle East!
Reggie, you crack me up. While it is impossible to only buy American, each and every time someone consciously tries to buy from those they agree with is an effort to show these companies that it is not in their best interest to get into politics.
Walmart could support Biden, and it wouldn’t stop a Trump supporter from going there...
Shop where you want, nobody is stopping you, but like I said I won't shop certain places on principal. I'm not out front waving signs, or beating drums, threatening anybody that dares go inside. I'm simply, personally, not patronizing a business or product that has taken a hardline political stance against that which I believe in. They can live and die by their own sword, but I simply choose not to shop with them. There's a Menards on every corner, but I don't shop there either. The beauty of America (thus far) is we have a multitude of choices where we shop or who we buy from! I'm not a hardline Made in America label reader, I don't go out of my way to research the place of origination, if I want it I buy it, but I am very cognizant of not shopping places that take an opposing ideal to my own. It's EASY..
I generally try to leave business to their own opinion on politics, unless of course they delve into discrimination. If companies like Goodyear can not see that Black Lines Matter is nothing more than a political organization promoting anarchy and socialism we know the motivation behind the decision. Sadly companies have no choice but to capitulate to the angry mob out of fear of reprisal. Companies can ill afford to be painted in a bad light by the modern day liberal media if they do not worship at the alter of the modern day anarchists. Can you imagine what the media would have done to Goodyear if they included Black Lives Matter in the ban along with Blue Lives Matter? Its more advantageous for businesses to praise Black Lives Matter and show distain for the Blue Lives Matter, or All Lives Matter. Just the mere mention of Support for Blue Lives Matter, or All Lives Matter could be the death nail for any business.
HF 43
I tend to agree, Huntfish, but Good Year is one of two companies that make tires for police cars.
Reggie it shows the true power of the anarchists in todays society. Right now the angry mob is in command and without or greatly reduced law enforcement they are free to impose their will on society, with fear of reprisal.
HF43
I had some Goodyear’s, I took them back because they pulled hard to the left. ??
HEH HEH. Best 1 today's Woods.
On a serious note there some smart people out there talking very quietly about a Civil War .
Mon. 7:00 pm. Apparently there are around 100 cars heading east from 94 going through Racine heading to Kenosha right now. I’m praying for our boys in blue and my homestate neighbors. I can’t help but worry about my mom and her house since she lives by herself in a not so nice neighborhood. This is a shitty situation all around and that video is pretty damning.
I wish I could say Evers has it under control but from comments he’s made don’t sound good. I hope this is handled better than our governor of MN and Mayer of mpls did here. Prayers for the law enforcement
How is any governor supposed to control the aftermath of that? And I agree Shane, that video is damning.
Its nuts down here... like a war zone.
Reggie, here is a novel idea. Don’t allow there to be an aftermath. It is way beyond time that this rioting is met with force and stopped in its tracks.
How about dont put out long damning statements fanning the flames before you even know the facts?
Not a good year to be a City Sliker . Between the china virus and violence the city is not the place to be .
Really Reggie? Did you listen to his press release? I left Kenosha 10 yrs ago, after living there 18 yrs. My 2 daughters followed shortly after, thank God! I agree this rioting shit has to be stopped as soon as it picks up momentum. I am sure no of these "protestors" have businesses in town being burnt down.
It took the national guard in MN to stop the nonsense of rioting and burning. That was ordered by emperor Walz. Rushing to judgement by Evers did not help in my opinion.
When the police are told to stand down and let the criminals burn and steal , it gets out of hand in a hurry.
My friend just sent this to me. The Governor should NOT be saying if the shooting was right or wrong! Was he on a Ride-along? If not right there knowing all the facts he or anyone else should NOT be making statements that cause more unrest
Worst Governor Ever(s)
These thugs are supported by the apathy and ignorance by some of the public, even by a few on these pages.
'How is any governor supposed to control the aftermath of that'
Simple, be pro-active instead of re-active. Real leadership wouldn't have allowed it to get this far in the first place. The first time I stole a $20 from my dad's wallet he whipped my ass...he didn't wait until summer was almost over and blame the wallet maker! Apparently Evers didn't learn anything from Obama's lead...you know, back when he made the "If I had a son he'd look like Travon" comment. It's a Governor's job to protect the citizens of the state, that's what they signed on the dotted line to do, not to demean, disparage, and criminalize law enforcement before the facts get sorted out. Best thing a libtard like Evers (or Walz, or just about any mayor in America) can do these days is stfu until the facts are in. Is that so difficult? But no, they have to open their dumb ass mouthes, fan the flames, and perpetuate racial divides where there is no need. It's smoke and mirrors, a deflections from the shitty job they're really doing in governing their respective states. (or lack thereof)
Funny how you are all blaming the rioters, but haven't said anything about cops shooting an unarmed man in the back 7 times.
Jr.... Did you hear about the guy who attempted to kill a Kenosha officer on 8/8? Funny, not heavily promoted. Did you see the fight between the officer and suspect prior? Probably not. Any idea of what the law abiding individual was grabbing in his car when he refused to stop and listen to the officer? . . I hope there is more to the story than the video. If not, the officer should be in jail for life. If there is, let's here what happened before passing judgement. I think that is what everyone here is staying.
And yes, the rioters are to blame for the ensuing damage to the the individuals and communities. They have not accomplished anything except proving they are no better than those involved.
Geitz you are spot on, also it is being reported that the gentleman who shot one of the videos has stated he heard the police tell the perpetrator to drop the knife and number of times. As in all of the cases the rush to judgement causing the ensuing riots has resulted in untold deaths, millions in property damage, but hey that is what these folks are banking on.
What the governor should have done was directed people to remain calm and make it crystal clear that any violence would not be tolerated. Sadly, guilty or innocent these officers lives and those of their families are ruined either way. Welcome to the new normal.
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From the videos I've seen, they had him on the ground at one time and he broke free to walk around the car. He had supposedly been tasered already, he was repeatedly told to "drop the knife." He reached in the car before the officer opened fire. we don't know if he grabbed something.
JR...there were 7 shots, I haven't seen a report where he was shot 7 times. All this guy had to do was comply with officer's commands. Simple! He escalated this to what happened.
Irresponsible to have all this aired and discussed without all the facts. Worthless governor we have in this state. He help to incite this violence in my opinion. Lots of questions have to be answered. I think I'll side with the police until they are proven guilty.
Doesn't matter black or white, if I were to do exactly what this guy did, I would expect to be shot.
'Funny how you are all blaming the rioters, but haven't said anything about cops shooting an unarmed man in the back 7 times'
It's not funny when you consider most sensible logically thinking people reserve public judgement until they actually KNOW the facts. It just happened, we don't know all the facts, but in the end if it was a bad shoot the responsible parties will meet the consequences of their actions.
I'll tell you what is funny (and I use the term "funny" very loosely)...the FACT that we NEVER hear about all the black on black killing that goes on DAILY inside democrat run cities (Chicago is a prime example) on the main stream media. Can you tell me why that is?? Could it be that black lives only matter if they ain't killing each other, but instead only when they're killed by a cop or white guy? Inquiring minds want to know; how come we never hear that side of it? I think it's also notable that not every single officer involved shooting should automatically be declared a racial event. Fact is sometimes getting shot by a cop is a result of something you did other than being born black, namely being stupid or threatening the officer or somebody else. Ain't saying there aren't unjustified shootings, but far and away if you get shot by a cop you probably had it coming, to be blunt. Time and facts will tell in Kenosha if that's the case..
Sounds like some more facts are trickling out. We still don’t know who was right or wrong. I read that the man had a warrant for his arrest and was resisting arrest before the start of the video that was shown.
Why is everyone in such a hurry to rush to judgment with little facts or evidence? The only reason I can see is political.
I know a guy from Wisconsin who spent his whole career in the government school system, so he's liberal and indoctrinated himself. He had been a teacher, a principle, and a superintendent of a couple schools to end his career. He sat in many meetings and many seminars with Tony Evers. He admitted in any one of them Evers was the dumbest guy in the room. Don't expect anything from him. He's just an autopen for the leftists. Thankfully this state hasn't handed over the legislature or courts to them.
Nobody has enough to make a judgement on what happened in Kenosha. No doubt they should have immediately tased him again as soon as he started walking away and got him cuffed. As it was he put the officers in a very dangerous place, disobeying orders and entering his vehicle where he easily could have pulled a gun. That is beyond stupid, and this guy had a violent rap sheet including sexual assault. What we have that follows is not protestors. It is beyond them even being rioters. They are terrorists and they need to be treated as such. NONE of these terrorist acts would have happened beyond a day or two anywhere if handled properly. As it is they still are going on in Portland and Seattle and Chicago. They should have been arrested on day 1. Now law enforcement doesn't even have the backing of leftist mayor's and governor's. They should all resign and let the cities burn. Not one federal tax dollar should go to rebuild these cities leftist politicians allowed to be burned. They can live there. What needs to be done to stop the terrorists in Kenosha is the same thing that's needed everywhere these rats show up. Put all of them on the ground with whatever means necessary. If tasers and pepper spray can't do it rubber bullets will. Backed by lead of course. Then arrest them and charge them with every single thing you can. Give them the criminal records they're begging for. Of course, idiot leftist mayor's and governor's won't do that. They'll just keep making excuses for these parasites while good people are preyed upon. Lock and load.
Two lawyers on Fox news just now, basically stringing up these officers already. Drumming up public opinion before any of this is solid. Pathetic!
I still say that if Minneapolis had balls and would have stopped this shit before it got out of hand it would not have spread nation wide like it did. Letting the police station burn was there biggest mistake. Protesters my ass! Very few are nonviolent protests recently. Rioters and looting thieves is what they are! I have seen first hand what they did to Minneapolis, it’s a disgrace and embarrassing. They burned down there own cities! Wtf? ! Makes zero sense to a person who is rational
Jr, they shot a criminal, with an outstanding warrant, who resisted arrest, had a knife and told them that he had a weapon in his vehicle which he was going to get. Video and an inquiry will determine what happened. Are you ready to eat some crappy tasting words you spewed if you are wrong?
Southfarm - you've hit the nail right on the head. Here are the up to date shootings in Chicago. Year to Date Shot & Killed: 450 Shot & Wounded: 2250 Total Shot: 2700 Total Homicides: 491
Courtesy of heyjackass.com
Trax, I totally agree with what you said. The worst part about it is there are good people in these cities that have no way out. I know two of the people that had businesses burned out. Its sad. They are good people that don;t deserve this to happen to them. Even if arrest are made they wont be prosecuted. Liberal prosecutors just let them walk. Its to bad that innocent peoples lives are ruined over this crap. They are terrorist and its time they are treated like terrorists. The only way this will end is when people start protecting themselves against this crap. This is 3rd world country crap and has no place in the USA. I will save my judgement on the police until I have some facts, not bits and pieces of cell phone video. If you live in a city you best be prepared to protect yourself and the ones you love. My son lives just outside of Milwaukee and was up 2 weekends ago. He had bought a new handgun a couple months ago. I said "nice gun for a c.c., but take this home with you", I sent him home with my AR and plenty of ammo.
That's part of the what liberalism is demanding of we the people now. THEY will tell us what we can say, THEY will tell us what we can think. Cops are bad and criminals are good is where it starts. In the meantime Burn, Loot, and Murder continues with the tax bill coming to pay for it all. Problem is without law and order that will be a bill that keeps coming and coming.
JR. your going to look pretty stupid if the body cam video shows the thug reaching for a gun inside that car, after being told to drop the knife multiple times. I will also bet you based on his actions and gate - his blood test shows at least alcohol but probably drugs in his system...as long as we are speculating.
How would you like to be a white LEO in this day and age, in the CITY let alone the inner city - trying to protect the innocent and doing your job - either way you are phucked!
Unbelievable judgement on this site before all the facts are in.
They don’t wear bodycams, woodguy...
Ok revised- so if the officer says he was reaching for a gun - and there is a gun in the car your going to look stupid!
What judgement “on this site” do you speak of?
Many of us have already said more info is required before a full judgement can be made. But we do have facts. This dude had a rap sheet and a warrant for sexual assault. He had a knife he was told to drop. He did not listen to police and he fought with them. He walked to his car ignoring their demands and was in position to pull a gun, which he already had a gun related record with. How incredibly stupid on his part. The only question is why 7 shots? It happens fast, and when officers are in danger they need to keep firing until that danger is eliminated. But I would have thought one well placed shot at what was point blank range would have done it. Of course, when 5 blacks get shot down by blacks this weekend alone in Chicago the Commie News Network will have nothing to say about it. It doesn’t matter in the least what color you are, put law enforcement in danger and a lethal response is to be expected. And should be. 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police officers last year. 19 unarmed white people were killed by police officers last year. Mistakes do happen, but most often even in these documented cases stupidity by those shot were the reason.
The premature “judgement” that has been wrong on every level is what we have witnessed by the terrorist thugs in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and now Kenosha among others. What’s absolutely pathetic is how the liberal mayors and governors have allowed these parasites to burn our cities and terrorize their citizens.
"Funny how you are all blaming the rioters, but haven't said anything about cops shooting an unarmed man in the back 7 times."
Even if it wasn't a justifiable shooting. That doesn't give thugs the right to vandalize, loot, and burn. When business/homeowners are portrayed as the bad guys for protecting their property/business from looting thugs. That is a main part of the problem in this country.
Here’s what I see and it’s evident right here. Some of you have chosen to completely disregard the fact that we the people have been stepping on an entire group for hundreds of years and that group has had enough. If you kick a dog over and over again, eventually it’s going to bite and this is the result. When all you do is sit behind a computer or tv and condemn things nothing can change. No progress can be made. When you choose to defend one side but fail to empathize with the other, nothing will change. I do not condone rioting but I also understand the anger in America today. You standing on your high horse helps nobody so get your asses out there and be the change you want to see. Or, are you actually happy with the status quo? I’m thinking that some in our group have contributed to this issue by standing silently by or maybe even encouraging violence against blacks. Before you judge someone else, look in the mirror and ask yourself if you may be part of the problem.
I’m all for protecting our property against rioters but I also feel strongly that we need to stop choosing sides and start choosing real reform. Us white folks need to show the black community that we are at least trying to understand the issues they deal with. If we’re not willing to do that, nothing will change.
CD, I see what you are saying and I’ll agree with most of it except for the part where you assume some in our group encourage violence against blacks. You know what they say about assuming.
My problem is I’ve grown up with plenty of black friends and throughout high school my best friend was black. Played sports throughout high school and college and spent more time hanging out with black people than white people. There is not one racist bone in my body but when I put my police gear on I suddenly become racist? Come on now. Again people are assuming.
What is happening in Kenosha right now is not fair to anyone and after seeing some of the shootings that are not police related it is scary.
CD, I see what you are saying and I’ll agree with most of it except for the part where you assume some in our group encourage violence against blacks. You know what they say about assuming.
My problem is I’ve grown up with plenty of black friends and throughout high school my best friend was black. Played sports throughout high school and college and spent more time hanging out with black people than white people. There is not one racist bone in my body but when I put my police gear on I suddenly become racist? Come on now. Again people are assuming.
What is happening in Kenosha right now is not fair to anyone and after seeing some of the shootings that are not police related it is scary.
Trax, there has been no proof of any knife yet, even police dept has not commented. It is only mentioned by man who took video and heard police say "drop the knife".
We live in America! Where ALL men and woman have the same opportunity to succeed. Everyone of us has some sort of obsticle in front of us, trying to hold us back from moving forward in a positive. It is up to the individual to overcome whatever it is.. Are black people oppressed?, Yes, in some ways they are, and have had to overcome ancestral mountains, but blacks are also, at the same time, in conjunction to the rioting, are waking up to the political agenda of the left. They are seeing what the left is doing to them. Politicians have held the black community in ghettos because they have been taught that they are oppressed and will never get a job. Lets bring rap music to the streets, express your feelings. Manipulate all the peoples minds, feed them with sex, drugs, and violence. All the same time we will give you American relief with food stamps and other government substitutes. Keeping you all in a comfortable crap hole.
I know I could convince anyone going through hardships that they have it soo bad in life. They would then sponge my words and a good chance that person spreads what they now believe to be true to the next person and it becomes a visceral domino effect. Public manipulation on the democrats behalf for decades. Now look at it. The white people are actually at the forefront destroying the cities. White people have been convinced they are oppressed with them. I say defend the media!
If you haven't worked a sift in Law enforcement, your Answers/Opinions are just the THAT! OPINIONS! Those who make up excuses for the bad guys should be put into a incident as the same and see what your reactions would be! Agreed that their are Cops who should NEVER put on a badge, their scared of there own shadow when on patrol and then to be put into this incident! As adults, we should teach our children to do what Law Enforcement officers tell you to do, things just work out better! If your children talk back to you, what is your recourse? Our country has raised a bunch of whiny A$$ people who are offended when they are caught doing wrong and are held accountable! Oh, by the way! I have walked the walk! 45 yrs. Law Enforcement! If ya DON'T like it here! MOVE! Back your law Enforcement to make things better, VOTE OUT the people who are screwing things up! If you want WI to look like San. Francisco or Detroit just let things keep going as there are! Just my $.02!
Crusader, not sure where that came from, but I know black people that would wholeheartedly disagree with you. Dr. Ben Carson for one! What you just basically did is play the "whoa is me" card. Far and away we have come giant strides in America since the slave days. Here are a few basic things to keep in mind...there isn't anybody alive today that was a slave or a slave trader or a slave owner in America. So, we got that out of the way, now let's address the fact that NOBODY can keep you down if you truly want to succeed and make something of your life in America. Everyday common Joe whites are not keeping blacks down. I work with blacks, I have friends and customers that are black. NONE of them look at me like the enemy or vice versa! If blacks feel threatened then they need to look to the political party that wants nothing more than to keep them "in chains", keep them impoverished, and keep them beholding to the democratic party. Let's be honest, if the Democrats don't have the black vote in their hip pocket they cease to exist. My black friends say all the time, and there's many other very well educated and wise black people, that the only one holding you back is yourself.
Having said that, there is a segment of the black population that doesn't want to put forth that effort...or they've been brainwashed by the Democratic party that they are "not worthy" of that effort. The opportunity is there, but they'd rather sit back and chill, do nothing, wait for the government to provide, and pull the big old race card on anybody that disagrees with that. It's gotten so bad that now they even have white people that had no racist bone in their body, never wronged a black person or held a slave captive, never gave thought to skin color, with feelings of so-called "WHITE GUILT". Take you for example..
In all fairness, you're a good guy that somehow fell into their trap. You're beginning to pander just like the democrats, and that only perpetuates this percieved race culture thing we have going.
Bottom line, do what you're supposed to. Go to school, get a job, support your family, leave other people alone, and nobody but a fool would stand in your way...regardless of your skin color.
Agree with SF 100%. Crusaders post is steeped in ignorance. I have served with warriors of all kinds and color of skin is meaningless. Yet he claims all of us who don't bow to the mantra being shoved down our throats by leftist masters are on a high horse and ignorant to the cause. Blind sheep are so easily led. NOBODY wants brutality and especially so if forced on someone because of race. Every sane person wants equality among races. We can all stand for that. What we see here is racist hate groups stroked and supported by terrorist groups like Antifa burning police cars, burning police stations, destroying public and private property, and terrorizing citizens. You have to be a racist and or a blind and dumb sheep to make excuses for anyone who supports that even if they're not physically involved. 9 unarmed black people shot by police last year, 19 unarmed white people shot by police last year. And how many blacks shot every week in Chicago alone by other blacks? Facts for the blind. What we are seeing in cities across America is not protesting. It is anarchy led by terrorists and supported by sheep. They need to be taken down. People are just beginning to defend themselves and their property. THIS is what liberalism brings Again, none of this would have happened if handled properly by the cities and states involved. When President Trump is re-elected watch this all go away very quickly.
This Marxist terror movement isn't just happening in cities where police have acted. In cities across America these racist hate groups are walking into restaurants screaming and blowing whistles and demanding every single person in there raise a fist in the air to support black power OR ELSE. What sheep among you would comply? These racist parasites need to be brought down and hard.
SouthFarm - I agree 100% with your post.
I see hippy go free-free CD is blowing weed parroting liberal talking points again.
SouthFarm hit it out of the park.
Seems simple to me. When I was a kid, my parents taught me that when a teacher, a policeman or any another adult told me to do something that I was to obey and keep my mouth shut. If they were in the wrong with what they told me to do, it would be dealt with later. And if I open my mouth, that I should expect to have it shut for me. Simple respect that I carry with me today at 60 years old. Seems many of our youth never got this message.
A bunch of white guys calling other people racists. Classic. Also pretty rich how you complain about BLM and people telling you how to act, but throw God in everybody's face every chance you get.
Number one you racist punk how do you know I'm white? I'm not saying anything Jason Whitlock or Herschel Walker or Allen West or Burgess Owens isn't saying. BLM is a Marxist racist hate group. They are openly anti-Semantic, they themselves openly claim to be Marxist, they want to CHANGE the western nuclear family, they want to do away with capitalism. Their own words. They have direct ties with racist terrorist groups like Antifa. They by their own design do not want equality. Anyone supporting them is either a blatant racist or simply a blind, dumb, ignorant sheep. Their time is nearly up.
it's evident Jr1972 comments only when he is offended. Why should anyone care what he thinks?
I don't care what he thinks, now that I know Jr doesn't even know how to read or comprehend. With a name like Jr and not knowing him I guess I'll just give him a pass and invite him to come back and join the conversation when he ain't a Jr and maybe knows what the hell he's talking about, rather than swinging by with a libtard talking point whenever his feelings are hurt. (Which is probably constantly)
The young man who defended himself after being attacked by these terrorist thugs by shooting a few of them to save his own life surrendered to police. He didn't disobey orders and walk to a car and lean in with his back to them. Had he, he would have been shot and rightfully so. He put his hands high in the air and obeyed commands. What he did is clearly self defense. He needs a good attorney, and I hear many are coming to his aid. He did absolutely nothing wrong.
Trax- Why was a 17 year old from Illinois walking around Kenosha with a rifle? Sounds like he went looking for trouble, but again, just an opinion until all the facts come out.
Well it finally sounds like Evers pulled his head out of his rear and asked for federal help. Maybe he finally realized this wont be tolorated in Wisc.
Fortunately people are protecting these small businesses that are being burnt and destroyed by our own people. These owners are losing everything they have because insurance doesn't cover for their own terrorism. Don't quote me on that, but if thats the case. More people should be brought out to protect just as that 17 year old boy and others have done. I have to agree to the fullest extent of what South Farm and others have said.
I hope they elect Trump again. Watch what he does if this happens again. Shame on the parents who have raised their kids the way that has been demonstrated in the streets of all these cities! It's a disgrace
No, the question is why has government allowed these terrorist thugs to burn and destroy our cities both public and private property. Threatening and harassing citizens on top of it. Now let these race punks take the street and face law and order.
This thread right here is enough to show me that most of you are too ignorant to understand that it’s not one incident that caused this chaos. It’s generations of incidents and this is the result. Sending in the army might quell this riot but if we refuse to see things from a different perspective and make a societal change this circle is doomed to repeat itself. I’m not saying anyone should kneel with blm. I’m not saying we should allow lawlessness. I’m saying if you want change, you first have to ask yourself hard questions and be willing to make changes yourselves. Change starts from the ground up. You have to realize that there really is usually more than two sides to every story.
I live my life on both sides by virtue of my upbringing in the hood and the fact that I’m the only one of my siblings that married within my race so I’ve personally seen the multigenerational pin pricks that have led to this. I’ve seen the security video of my ten year old nephew getting handcuffed because his white friend was spray painting something and that white friend remained uncuffed even though he’s the one that had the paint and the homeowner came out and explained that to the cops along with showing them the video.
Also, every male cousin I have is currently active duty police along with an uncle who is a captain and a son who will be an officer within two years so I also back the badge. I’ve ridden with my two favorite cousins a few times so I also understand the uncertainty that comes with putting on that uniform every day.
It’s easy to sit in your up north cabin and play judge and jury with your old school politics but that’s not reality and those old school politics are what got us here to begin with.
Southfarm. Couldn't of said it better.
Reggie, why was a 26 year old from West Allis in Kenosha and carrying a pistol. Not too smart bringing a pistol to an AR fight!
This information was just released by the Democratic Attorney General of WI:
"In an investigation after the shooting, Blake admitted he was possessing a knife, which was recovered from the driver’s side floorboard of his vehicle. No other weapons were found in the SUV".
HF43
Exactly, Captain, he shouldn’t have been. Neither of them should have been there. Your comment about bringing a pistol to an AR fight is just plain gross.
Shane,
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
Yep none of us are as woke as the great crusader, we're just not guilty enough for mr. virtuous.
So it sounds like he was reaching for the knife? Would that make the shooting justified?
Damn, now the bucks wont play basketball tonight. Maybe they can reschedule in China.
The DOJ has confirmed that he had the knife in his hand when the police arrived, and it can be seen in the video as he's walking towards the car.
I received this yesterday and can't really disagree with what was wrote. SO SAD AND DISTURBING! I never dreamed that I would have to face the prospect of not living in the United States of America, at least not the one I have known all my life. I have never wished to live anywhere else.
While having my morning coffee, I realized that everything is about to change. No matter how I vote, no matter what I say, something evil has invaded our nation, and our lives are never going to be the same. I have been confused by the hostility of family and friends. I look at people I have known for a long time who are so filled with hate because they continue to listen to the opinions of the media as if they are spitting the truth. Sadly I don't know what the word truth means any more. It's absolutely unbelievable. I think I live in The Twilight Zone these days. We have become a nation that has lost its collective mind! Let me see if I can convey why I am thinking this way. • If a dude pretends to be a woman, you are required to pretend with him. • Somehow it’s un-American for the census to count how many Americans are in America. • Russians influencing our elections are bad, but illegals voting in our elections are good, really? • It was cool for Joe Biden to "blackmail" the President of Ukraine, but it’s an impeachable offense if Donald Trump inquires about it. • Twenty is too young to drink a beer, but eighteen is old enough to vote. • People who have never owned slaves should pay slavery reparations to people who have never been slaves. • Inflammatory rhetoric is outrageous, but harassing people in restaurants is virtuous. • People who have never been to college or people who paid for their own college should now pay the debts of college students who took out huge loans for their degrees. • Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but you’d better be able to prove your dog is vaccinated. • Irish doctors and German engineers who want to immigrate must go through a rigorous vetting process, but any illiterate gang-banger who jumps the southern fence is welcome. • $5 billion for border security is too expensive, but $1.5 trillion for “free” health care is not. • If you cheat to get into college you go to prison, but if you cheat to get into the country you go to college for free. • People who say there is no such thing as gender are demanding a female President??? • We see other countries going Socialist and collapsing, but it seems like a great plan for us, why would anyone in The U.S. want this? • Some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, and other people are not held responsible for what they are doing right now. • Criminals are catch-and-released to hurt more people, but stopping them is bad because it's a violation of THEIR rights. • And pointing out all this hypocrisy somehow makes us "racists"?! Nothing makes sense anymore, no values, no morals, no civility and people are dying of a Chinese virus, but it racist to refer to it as Chinese even though it began in China. We are clearly living in an upside-down world where right is wrong and wrong is right, where moral is immoral and immoral is moral, where good is evil and evil is good, where killing murderers is wrong, but killing innocent babies is right, where darkness is light and light is now darkness.
Wake up America, the great unsinkable ship "Titanic America" has hit an iceberg, is taking on water and sinking fast. The choice is yours to make. What will it be? Time is short, make your choice wisely!
Hoot, pretty exact and true of today. All that is happening is confusing and angering to say the least. I've said before, I like that I got to see the good times of a time that is now long ago. I hope every person that sees this gets out and votes to hopefully stop or slow a lot of this.
Crusader - your entitled to your opinion, but your short on facts with your above rants and just give generalizations perpetuated by the left.
Let me give you some facts - we had a AA President elected twice by a majority of white folks.
Under Trump, the AA unemployment rate prior to the China virus, was the lowest it has ever been in the history of keeping the statistics.
These were not minimum wage jobs either supported by the next fact -
AA home ownership is the highest its ever been since they have been keeping the records - under President Trump.
What other country in the entire World could an AA possibly have a better life or opportunities than the USA?
Crusader be more specific - what exactly have we done to them to keep them down?
You give one weak example of a kid being handcuffed - Im guessing he was promptly let go as soon as the officer sorted things out - I would love to hear the other side to that story.
You realize there are more white folks shot and killed by cops each year correct?
What about the astronomical B on B crime? Maybe get a handle on that - while we are at it huh?
Statistically any female that has a baby before graduating HS is not going to go far in life - I said statistically.
If you dont graduate HS and decide to join a gang - not much we can do about that and not really our fault.
In the projects - statistically, there are very few 2 parent HH's, and those that have 2 parents are ones that typically succeed and stay in school.
Anytime people bring those issues up - its considered "white privilege" and "you just dont understand".
People of color are given preference points on Civil service tests, State tests, Entrance exams to colleges, I could go on and on.
Crusader - tell us, please be specific, what else can we do to make all this go away and "even the score" for people of color once and for all?
Great post Hoot! It really leaves a logical person scratching their head how what is wrong can seem right and what is right can seem wrong (Hmm, where have I heard that before?). I think the saddest thing about your post is what all of that does to people...after a while I think people do one of two things...it either drives them mad to where they act out in aggression, or worse, they bury their heads in the sand, sick of it all, hoping somebody else will make it all go away. It breeds apathy, which in the end will be the final death blow for freedom and America.
BUT, good news, there's an answer to it all! You can get out and VOTE FOR TRUMP in November! Nobody else is poised and working harder (Many times alone without help from either side) at keeping America America than Trump. Love him or hate him, what are you going to do? Ya gonna put your eggs in Biden's basket and "hope" things get better? You know they won't. You know the ONLY reason Biden is even the democratic nomination for President is because the people behind the curtain know just how EASILY they'll be able to manipulate him! Biden is nothing more than a limp puppet with the radical left socialist pulling his strings and making him dance. Sad thing is is the poor old guy doesn't even have the faculties to know what's going on. He's just happy go lucky good ole Uncle Joe who just wants to be your buddy and smell your hair...all the while the likes of Kamala Harris and her ilk run the country in the ground from behind the secret curtain. C'mon Man!!
If you want everything in Hoot's post to go away or simmer down you ain't gonna do it by shooting your way out of it, you ain't gonna do it by driving to Kenosha and kicking ass (as fun as it sounds and as much as they deserve it), or even by hen-pecking away on a computer like yours truly. Let's face it, for the most part we're preaching to the choir. Nope, if you want the America you grew up in and grew to love then the best thing you could ever do, the biggest investment you could ever make, is to cast your ballot for Donald Trump. So do it!
"Crusader - tell us, please be specific, what else can we do to make all this go away and "even the score" for people of color once and for all?"
I can answer that. NOTHING! It will NEVER be enough. You can never "even the score" because it isn't about race. Race is just the convenient scapegoat. It's about control. They want to be in control so they can do whatever, whenever, to whoever. Simple as that. And if you try to stop them, well, you must be a racist..
Our law enforcement officers need the support of good citizens more than ever. They have a tough and dangerous job to do and get little thanks. There are bad people in every profession and mistakes are made. Overall, the law enforcement in this country has done a great job for a very long time when you consider the number of stressful situations encountered on a daily basis nationwide. The VAST amount of police involved shootings are completely justified. A miniscule amount of exception. Even Obama's own JD could not find fault in a number of incidents during his reign, including the one in Ferguson involving the shooting of the "gentle giant". You know, where the giant fought with and tried to take the service pistol from the officer. In Minneapolis we're finding out not only did George have meth and fentanyl in his system but an autopsy has shown he did NOT die of asphyxiation. He died of a lethal dose of fentanyl. Likely the stressful situation aided that death, but that was on him. His actions made it stressful. Should the officer knelt on his neck that long, of course not. But he was toast anyway. This is not 2nd degree murder and watch the liberal pisshole known as Minneapolis erupt again when those charges are thrown out. We need to look to the black community for leadership on this issue no doubt. But NOT to race pimps like Al Sharpton and Lebron James. We need to look to Allen West, Burgess Owens and Jack Brewer, Vernon Jones and Candace Owens, Clarence Henderson and Tim Scott to just name a few. Cops are not bad and criminals are not good no matter the cause. The cities with the most turmoil are the cities that see it the other way. THIS is what liberalism brings.
South farm I know what the answer is - but I want to hear his answer.
"The governor of Minnesota declared a state of peacetime emergency on the city of Minneapolis after violent protests erupted on Wednesday night following the death of a Black homicide suspect who police say shot himself.Minneapolis police posted a surveillance video of the incident on Twitter, saying that the victim, a suspect in a homicide, committed suicide and that no weapons were fired by police. The video shows a Black man shooting himself at the entrance of a building as a nearby group of people ran away and police approach the scene."
Crusader, add this to your " generations of incidents" which are causing chaos.
Sorry about that Woodguy.
"Your comment about bringing a pistol to an AR fight is just plain gross." Reg, your opinion but the fact of the matter is that it was spot on.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uLofY_1598288862
For this of you who think the police deserve to deal with these riots here is an interesting video. What did this police officer do to deserve a brick to the head? I’m sure nobody has seen this video on your local news, but why?
If you want fast forward to 45 seconds in. Pretty disgusting that’s this even happened let alone the celebration that the officer was struck in the head.
It's pretty easy to see none of this has to do with police brutality or black lives matter. Of course black lives matter equally to all lives of any color. Black Lives Matter INC is a racist hate group, openly Marxist and anti-Semantic wanting to change the western nuclear family. Their OWN words. Question is when these parasitic thugs come to your table in a restaurant screaming in your face and blowing whistles demanding you and everyone else put your fist in the air to support BLACK POWER or else, will you comply? This is being done you know. Are you a patriot or would you be a sheep? When a Senator of the United States like Rand Paul can be chased down by scum like happened last night with his life and his wife's threatened it is very telling. Thank God for the police officers that were there to run with them. Notice how the leftist media and the Democrat Socialist Party along with the likes of the NBA, NFL and MLB remain silent? Revenues for all sports are going to fall off the cliff.
Wow, I'm came back to this site to see how people are preparing for the upcoming bowhunting season and this is the garbage that seems to be dominating the forum??? This is a great way to reduce participation on the site. Take it somewhere else. Doesn't Fox News have a forum for your hate?
Tell us bonehead, why did you click on it then? Why don't you take your cop hate somewhere else, like the Communist News Network. Punk.
Trax, I've worked my entire career in Criminal Justice. How about you? Maybe loosen up that trucker hat, it's obviously cutting off the blood flow.
I'm with the dude that made the super deep post about the peace and love stuff and all that man it's the right thing to do, and to say, come on folks, can't we all just chill a bit and love one another peace is where it's at we all gotta do what we gotta do before the doing what we gotta do can't to be done because of the hate my brothers of the human race, far out man...
Actually I'm like FredBear surprised to see this type of thread here since time and time again the regular posters complain about non-bowhunting threads here on Bowsite. I have noticed that as of recently other hunting forums have really picked up on the hunting conversations and season prepping/etc like what FredBear is looking for, which is good and worth checking out for those that wish to discuss hunting. There is a thread here titled 3 weeks that is about bow deer season coming up, but it appears to not be that much of a popular topic on this forum.
Good hunting to any here that might go out!
Why then Freddy do you snivel and whine like a 5th grade school girl about a thread you don’t like? Hit one you do and otherwise beat it. I’ve spent my entire life in service to this country as well, in likely a little different way you have. I have spent time around this globe and witnessed this form of intimidation leading to oppression before. But before you run and hide tell us what “hate” you speak of. What facts I presented do you refer to?
What kind of bow you shoot FredBear76? How's the plots coming along? Seen any good ones on camera? Got any big boys named and ready for the wall yet? Do you think opening weekend will be busy? What part of the state are you planning to hunt on opener? How's the mast crop in your area? Any CWD or other concerns in your area? How are you "preparing" for the season?
Fact: There are good cops and bad cops. Fact: There are good people and bad people. Fact: There are good.hunters and bad hunters. Fact: Was the officer who knelt on a suspect until he died good or bad? Fact: Was the officer who put 7 rounds in the back of a suspect good or bad? Fact: Was the hunter from Fox Lake poaching in Nebraska good or bad? Fact: Was the kid who came from Illinois to "protect" Kenosha good or bad? In all these cases there is a right and wrong. There is no middle. Not buts no maybe's no do overs. Arguing over left or right or racism or WTF is a big part of our problems. Is it right or is it wrong. No middle no gray areas it either is black or white. No justifying it. Right or Wrong. You alone make that decision. You (meaning us) do it daily. We decide if it's right or wrong. From the time we awake to the time we sleep we make that choice dozens of times. Is it right or is it wrong?
Good luck everyone this fall.
A little too simplified Trickle, and "Fact:" can't be a question. Was the officer who knelt on "a suspect until he died" guilty of 2nd degree murder? He wasn't, and that charge will be thrown out. Did the officer make a mistake? I think he certainly did, but that's for a jury to decide. But it wasn't murder. That suspect per autopsy died of a lethal does of fentanyl. Not from what the officer was doing. Was the officer who put 7 rounds into a suspect who had a warrant for sexual assault, fought with officers and did not comply to commands, and then leaned into his car a bad officer? The only question is why 7 rounds when 1 well placed round should have done it. You see, you have to consider all the FACTS.
Now, so far this year over 250 white people have been shot by cops. Name one. Right.
In 2019 10 unarmed black people were shot by cops. In 2019 19 unarmed white people were shot by cops. Almost all clearly justified.
What we are seeing by terrorist thugs in restaurants and businesses and in the streets daily is pathetic. This is owned by liberal mayors and governors. It all can be stopped in a flash. It's called law and order. Fact.
Oh, I forgot the young man who killed two thugs and wounded another in Kenosha was clearly defending himself. He was running away from these terrorists, not towards them. He used his weapon as a last resort, he could have used it much sooner. The charge against him is clearly politically motivated and will be thrown out. At worst he will plead to a much lesser weapons charge being he was a minor. The 2nd Amendment allows for we the people to defend our very lives and we don't have to be at home to do it.
Trax one of these days the political crutch you use is gonna snap then you will have to find another blame game. The kid was protecting himself. OK ya sure but what the fuck was he doing there playing john Wayne in the first place? It was none of his stupid 17 year old business to look for trouble and being there in the first place. Ya it wasn't murder in Minneapolis it was manslaughter. Period. I just don't get how you justify this racist nervona bs by using fentanyl, dead white guys, liberals, democratic leaders to fortify what is obviously a racist theme to all this. Off the top of my head white guys killed by cops.....Jeffrey McCord, Steven Daniels. Tom, "Hippo", Marks, Nathaniel Hacket, Orville Dowdy, How many you know without looking? Facts Jack. Right and wrong. Good and bad. If you put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig. Dress it up. It's still a pig. God Bless (I hate ignorance) You All
Hey, Trickle knows how to use Google. Congrats! Again, you're asking all the wrong questions. The "kid" being there is not in question. He was a minor, that would be the only issue. When these rats chased him down threatening his life he had every right to protect himself. You're obviously chasing a race card, so desperately trying to find one. It doesn't get more ignorant than that. Now justify for us the looting, the burning, the threatening and beatings, the blowing whistles in the face of customers in restaurants. Of course you can't.
Google no. Mowing grass yes. You need better bait trax I ain't biting on that old school racist nonsense. Protect himself from a mob! He should first off been protected from himself (looking at you mom and dad). He went looking for trouble and he found it. Fact. Back to mowing. Not googling.
Right. The question is, what is the mob of thugs doing there. (and not just in Kenosha, all over) Fact: Burning, threatening, stealing, breaking, terrorizing. The "kid" was there because he felt a civic duty to be there. He had a medical kit with him and wanted to also show support for the business owners who were being terrorized by criminals. The rifle was there to protect himself and others from these parasites. It worked.
"He went looking for trouble and he found it. Fact." So have the many involved.
Correct Geitz. The looters, robbers, arsons, have no sympathy from me. They are just as guilty as that dumb John Wayne save the world kid. There is a right way to protest and a wrong way to protest. I hope they charge the criminals using protest as a way to commit crimes. White,Black, Red, Brown. But we do need change. God Bless (my hippie is coming out huh?) You All
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It is VERY interesting that the major cities and States that have on going violence and BLM (Burning, looting, and Murder) are run run by democratic Mayors and Governors. Apparently their Liberal agendas are not working. TRUMP 2020.. Law and Order....
My new lucky socks. TRUMP 2020! Trickle, not everything is about race. Does any body even know if derik chauvin is a racist or maybe he’s a dick to everyone?
That makes no sense to me. Your socks? Your political view? I'm thinking maybe to back off this site. I know that's the easy way out. Anybody wanna show some guts? If I see some I'll post. If not I won't even lurk. Fair enough?
I took a breath. Know what I'll try perspective. In 1964 President Johnson signed the equal rights bill. Started by JFK. Is that nuts! You have to make a law so if you are black you get some semblance of of equal rights? We had to pass a act and law for that? Yup. Seems at the same time conservation and environment came aboard. We (they) called it pollution. There was marches. Protests. Gatherings. It produced Gaylord Perry from Wisconsin who founded Earth Day. It Cleaned our air. It cleaned our water. Laws were enacted to hold corporations accountable. Polluters accountable. Run off was reduced. Nature came back. Now in 2020 we don't tolerate our friends to throw sandwhich bags or empty cans in the woods or streams. We kick people out of deer camps for that shit now. Two movements in time. Why are we so behind in one? One movement marched on. One is stuck on neutral. I just don't get it. I really just don't get it. I wish we all had a answer so we would know what the question is. How comes?
Hmmmmmm,,, I wonder what this B L M march has to do with racial injustice ???? This is not what Martin Luther King had in mind. It is very easy to submit rather then fight the police. If you feel there is an injustice fight it in court not on the street. Most get free lawyers now days anyway. Its interesting that ALL B L M marchs (Burn, Loot, Murder) Start immediately after a shooting even before the facts of the shooting are in. Makes one wonder if the shooting aren't just an excuse to B, L,M all along ??????? Why not wait for the facts first to come out first????????
Deep breath is right, some kids didn't go to school for no learnin'!
LBJ was a leftist political hack and one of the most racist presidents ever to serve in the modern era. Maybe only Wilson more the racist.
Any sane person is in favor of equality, that all lives matter in an equal basis. What we have with racist hate groups like BLM and terrorist groups like Antifa is the exact opposite. We have a right to peaceful protest, and that starts with a permit when in congested areas. What we see in liberal controlled cities and states is terrorism. Not just terror upon the government, but terror upon the citizen. The way you eliminate these parasites is you take them down from DAY ONE.
Now let's see how the autopen president to be Creepy Joe does with his visit to Wisconsin. He's going to visit the family of the criminal with a warrant for sexual assault and who fought with police putting them in a dangerous situation where they rightfully protected themselves. Let's see if he visits the criminal himself.
You all have to keep in mind that Trickle Rut is a staunch liberal (he says he's independent but we all know otherwise) who backs Evers and has bashed Walker every chance he's had. Let's not forget all the other monikers he's posted under and was booted under. It was great when he pretended to be a Native American making dug out canoes and was busted when those pics were discovered on eBay. He and Warren have a lot in common including being part of the radical left. Good old Slicer. Just the names change with him.
What??? You mean his name isnt truly Tom Trickle????
Evers. It warrants saying it again. I know a guy who spent his whole career in academia. Teacher for years in government schools, principle for years after, last years a superintendent. Sat in many meetings and seminars with Evers. Even he, an indoctrinated public official, said in every meeting or seminar Evers was the dumbest guy in the room. I guess the perfect candidate to lead liberals.
OMG Not again. I joined this site last December I think. This slicer whatever I have no clue who that is or the others. We been thru all that before. Put a nightcap in it. It's rather amusing how you always go to that card.
Trickle I have to ask; if Black Lives MATTERED to these folks, why only protest, riot, destroy, harm, and kill when there is an incident with a law enforcement officer? Why not (pick a major US city) in an areas where black's are being murdered predominantly by other black's? Lastly what exactly are you doing to further the "cause" of BLM across the country? Are you in the streets rioting, looting? Do tell won't you.
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What kind of bow you shoot FredBear76? How's the plots coming along? Seen any good ones on camera? Got any big boys named and ready for the wall yet? Do you think opening weekend will be busy? What part of the state are you planning to hunt on opener? How's the mast crop in your area? Any CWD or other concerns in your area? How are you "preparing" for the season?
Mathews Z3. Plot of clover is looking great. Yes, I have a shooter 10 pointer that I'm watching. Yes, but Rocky doesn't show up during the day. No, I don't think opening weekend will be busy where I hunt. It's private land. I'll be hunting in Richland County. No CWD concerns yet. I'm preparing for the opener by shooting my bow regularly, checking my stands and making sure they're still safe, and checking my trail cams to try and track movements. Your turn.
Nope. I as stated against violence in any form. Peacefully protests I'm all good with. A wise man (Ronald Reagan) once said " if you can't win a argument in 30 seconds you never will" My 30 seconds are up.
Pray for the La sheriff's deputies who were ambushed and both shot in the head.
Think, before you vote in November for a candidate who pivoted to banning assault weapons instead of addressing the real issue at hand.
Biden /Harris,.... against most everything hunters, gun owners and the free world stand for. Only antihunters would consider voting for Biden. Time to get off the fence and define your true beliefs. One cannot have it both ways, time to commit. You are either with hunters, or against. If you are against the long term sustainability of hunting and gun ownership, Biden is your man.
Raw human sewage being dumped in lake mich in wi, il and Mi for years. Many many years. Storm drains have gasoline. Oil, paint being dumped in them in all surrounding communities and go to lake Mi. Good luck Reggie, BIden wont do anything more than Trump. We people suck! Kenosha harbor full of trash, bottles, plastic etc every Spring. Garbage washes up on beaches all the time here in Kenosha. Whoever is Pres wont matter, people suck!
I agree, Pasq. I take the kids “fishing” under the Hoan. Saw more needles float by than had bites the last few times.
I hunt, drive a gas guzzling 4x4, drink whiskey, and believe in God. Guess what... I'm over joyed with the idea of voting for Biden-Harris in less than 50 days!
if you are a Democrat in today's world you either dont know Jack about politics, your not a real outdoorsman, or you don't believe in God, or worse, you are all of them. Democrats don't represent any of these what so ever and thats all i am going to say about that. Great thing is we can all vote for who we want but look at the democrats slogan 2020 symbol D20. Thats the satanic death star. The death arrow is even highlighted as its representation. "Death 2 America" dont believe it? Look it up.. I back the Blue all the way. Backing the blue is NOT voting for Biden!
People that are voting Biden-Harris are really voting Harris because Sleepy Joe won't make it through his whole term. Biden alone would be like Obama 2.0 and that would be brutal for America as it is. The radical left wing socialistic democratic party will ruin life as we once knew it. I love Canada but could never live in a socialistic country. It looks like I might be living in one soon.
"I hunt, drive a gas guzzling 4x4, drink whiskey, and believe in God. Guess what... I'm over joyed with the idea of voting for Biden-Harris in less than 50 days!"
If you believe in God how do you rationalize the Democratic platform of abortion on demand?
Questioning his religious beliefs is so...Godly of you, Dirty Mike
Not like Mike doesn't have a point Reggie. The democratic party doesn't stand for God! Its hypocritical of a true religious person to stand for that party. Especially a religious person who believes in, and has read the bible. They would quickly figure out what the democratic party stood for.
The dem/socialists support religion, just not Christianity.
Biden is an idiot incapable of completing a sentence or feeding himself. I find it difficult to believe anyone but an equal idiot would vote for him. Those that vote for him are really voting for the Democrat Socialist Party and their perceived platform, a mix of America hating socialists (Marxists/Fascists) and blind dumb sheep. They're really not voting for the radically left Kamal baby either, they are voting for a Marxist cabal. The cabal will be calling the shots, not Biden/Harris. Or Harris/Biden. The Democrat Socialist Party is going all out to steal this election, that's why they have already hired over 600 attorneys. They won't win a legit election, so they will try to steal it. That's what this unsolicited mail in voting is all about. What a completely corrupt pile of America hating crap the Democrat Socialist Party has become. They must keep their blind dumb sheep out of the know or they'd be toast. The blind dumb sheep make up their majority. The attempted execution of the two L.A. police officers is a perfect example of what the Democrat Socialist Party stands for. Oh, they will fundamentally change America all right.
I think what is going on in this country can be summed up easily by the reaction of two circumstances.
# 1). A thug resists arrest and police use a firearm in split second decision, and the public reaction is to burn, loot, and murder. Most of our public figures condemn the police, and applaud the lawlessness that follows.
#2). A thug walks up to a police cruiser with two law enforcement officers sitting inside and proceeds to shoot them multiple times at point blank range. The majority of our public figures remain silent.
The Democratic Party is in name only it is now dominated by socialists, who do not hate America, they just hate what it stands for. The Democratic Party believes that American exceptionalism is trait that must be abolished. We have spent 30 years growing a class of Americans who believe that what they desire is now a right; Ex: citizenship, annual income, housing, secondary education, health care, transportation, food etc. should be handed to them and it should be taken from someone else that has it. Sadly this election will decide whether American Exceptionalism is the "Gold Standard" that so many countries admire, and many would die trying for the chance.
Harris/Biden- Gangster 24/7/365- Were commin for ya!
HF43
HF43,
You forgot about:
#3 drug dealer and girlfriend's drug house is raided. Drug dealer shoots at officer and they return fire. GF who is an accomplice in drug dealing is killed. Family is awarded 12 million and public is still not satisfied with justice.
Geitz- Thanks for the addition, however I think that list can go on and on and on. You do raise a good point, and that is there is no end game, the socialists will either take it by force (Rob, Loot, or Steal), or through the ballot box and take it through legislation, taxation and confiscation all under the guise of "fairness".
Hows Boomer by the way?
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Hard to believe any "hunter" would vote for Biden/Harris. It is time to kick supporters out of your hunting camps. No dem socialist will ever hunt my properties, period.
It amazes me that anyone who even pays a little attention can vote for Dump. Are you gullible enough to believe that he's like you? Do you think he's ever even hunted let alone fire a gun? He doesn't care about you and surely doesn't believe in God. He's an ignorant fool who only cares about himself. He can't identify with you unless you were also born with a silver spoon in your mouth?
Does Dump personify your religion? He lies, cheats on his wives, and is full of greed and hate. You've fallen for the greatest scam of all time. Also, it's amazing I still have all my guns after 8 years with Obama. Don't believe the hype.
Fred who does he hate? Serious question, who does he hate?
Sorry Fred but I gotta dissect your post.
Am I gullible enough to think he is like me is the question? Ahhh No. He is nothing like me.
Cheats on his wife... hmmm If true you are correct, not cool. BUT I believe that may be a prerequisite as there have been many a dem also not that its okay.
He cant identify with me unless I gave a silver spoon? I dont care if he identifies with me. He needs to get this Country back on track and seems to be doing well at it to me in my opinion
He doesnt care about you and doesnt believe in God... I'm gonna leave that alone but again I think you may not be correct
Do I think he hunts or ever shot a gun? Hmmm again I dont care. Didnt know that was a prerequisite to the position. Do you have info on other Preses and their weapon of choice? Start with the one before this one please.
Biden just said we need better gun control... again easiest route to appease instead of going after the real issues which the current Pres is trying to do at least to me
You do know Joe's wife was married before. Correct... hmmm
Harris/Biden- Gangster 24/7/365- Were commin for ya!
Pasq, my point is people are throwing around religion as if that's their number one concern. If so, then we need to look at how deplorable our current president is. He holds up the bible as if it's a prop. Id bet my entire savings he's never read more than fifty pages of the bible (or any other book for that matter). You say he needs to "get this country back on track". You do realize the country was growing faster under Obama, don't you? You're not seeing any benefits from anything he's done unless you are in the 1%. I should also throw out there, I voted for this idiot once. I won't be making that mistake again. (We haven't even discuss COVID or the Russians. I could go on and on)
Interesting how you deflect and won't answer my question.
Shame on you.
Growing faster under Obama? GDP growth was under 1.5 percent. Even remember Obama saying this is the new norm. The DON sure proved him wrong, and quickly GDP went over 3.. This is why you can't talk politics, and then to think someone should debate someone through text. Even bigger joke. Fred bear, your not going to change anyone's mind and we cannot change yours. This vote counts more than any election prior to this. This election will determine the fate of all nations.
We could go back and forth forever. Good luck hunting.
PS - look up Reverend Wright who officiated a wedding a few years back and happened to be the clergy to one named Pres. and his beliefs on America.
Number one visitor to the Whitehouse under Obama? Al Sharpton... do some reading on that guy.
Very divisive group of people.
Dont get me wrong ,Trump says some stuff that I wish he would shut up. But to counter that, he says things that should be said.
Again I'm out and Happy Hunting to you.
Pss - I have a relationship not a religion per se... take care man
For 2019, the data shows an annual average growth of 2.3%, ending the year at 2.1% for the fourth quarter.
This is significantly less than the 5.5% peak achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.
And if you go further back, there were times in the 1950s and 1960s when GDP growth was even higher.
Dirty Mike - I'm not going to get into an abortion argument with you on a bowhunting site. Thanks for trying though.
Speaking of being "duped" how could anyone vote for a party that refers to the recent spat of Burning-Looting and Murder as a peaceful protest, or maybe you "identify" with that. I guess if the boot fits, well you know the rest.
Harris/Biden- Gangster 24/7/365- Were commin for ya!
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The ChiComm virus is the only thing that has negatively impacted the economy during President Trump's term. No president has looked after America and the economy of we the people like President Trump. But that's just one of his many accomplishments. His best likely being the judges and Justices he's put behind the bench but my favorite is how he does not bow to his own Party. Reagan was a great president and great for America but he bowed to the Republican cabal. Trump does not and thank God for that. Then you look at what he has accomplished in the Middle East with the agreements he brokered between Arab nations and Israel with more close coming. Think if Obozo would have been able to accomplish that, how the lamestream media would have lathered him up. Instead Obozo and Biden sent pallets full of cash to Iran and signed the worst deal in American history with that terrorist state, a deal insuring they would have legitimized nuclear weapons. Thank you President Trump for tearing up that wicked deal and other bad deals from past administrations. Replacing them with deals that work for America, not the globalist cabal.
The riots and violence you see in our streets from terrorists and mobs is 100% on liberalism. Liberal mayors and governors taking the lead from the Democrat Socialist Party. What a pathetic bunch of parasites they are. The blind dumb sheep can't wait to vote for them, to vote for Kamala baby/Biden!
I have a hard time understanding people supporting a party which counts on a minority vote, stating they are the voice of the group and gives every subsidy to that group to assist keeping it impoverished just in order to keep that election leverage.
Speaking of being Duped
Concerning Obama Care:
Remember Good Old Joe Stating if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, or how Obama Care would drive down health care costs by over $2,000.00 per year when in fact they went up over $2700.00 per year?
Harris/Biden- Gangster 24/7/365- Were commin for ya!
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Drain the swamp, throw the socialist dems out of hunting camps.
Good thing Missouri doesn't own one.
You are correct Trax. Until the Chinese plague was thrust upon the world by China, who Biden loves to deal with, unemployment was near an all time low and employment among Blacks was near an all-time high. The economy was doing great. The Chinese plague can only be blamed on one country and that is China. I feel very confident it came from their labs. What will they unleash on the world next? Who knows but Sleepy Joe might help them fund it. The economic shutdown has been far worse than the plague itself yet Sleepy Joe says he'd shutdown the country again.
The radical left will ruin the USA. I am afraid of what Harris and her cronies will do while Biden practices tying his shoes and reading teleprompters because he can no longer think on his own.
Trax, your savior Rush Limbaugh would be so proud you memorized his talking points. Why does Dump criticize vets who have given their lives for this country? Why does he criticize POW's? Maybe because he was a coward and avoided the war and he feels inferior? This is how he governs. Thank God we'll be rid of him soon.
Fred go push your fake news somewhere else.
So sad the Democrats and harris biden celebrate criminals and the lawless, yet castigate the police. The Democrats are the party of death and anarchy.
It's disgusting. Just like the other issue you can't rationalize or make jibe.
Shame on you.
Fred bear, why are you so into your feelings, on a hunting forum, talking politics, and how you stand for something nobody on this forum stands for? I think you should drop it. You have no credibility in this conversation. At this point, noone will change sides. The only thing we can do is vote. BUT..... Remember when the left had a landslide 4 years ago? That didn't turn out so well and i am sure God isn't on the democratic side either, but that's my opinion.
Nocturnal, I did drop this, but others continue to bring it up. By the way, I'm not the only one who feels this way on this forum. That's pretty presumptuous of you. As for hunting, I'll be heading out in the morning. Good luck to all.
Just to remind you! The greater majority of hunters are not on the democratic side, but the end of the day, you are a brother of the bow to me. No matter the political differences in the world today. I would gladly share a beer with you. Good luck tomorrow morning!
Nocturnal II ??? any relation to the other?
I will never share a camp with somebody who votes against my way of life and everything I have worked for. Hunter or non hunter, you are out.
Wow Misery, I have never heard that from you before! Very original diatribe from you. Geeez...
Question- do you think crossbow is the nail in the coffin for Archery? You havent spewed that one in awhile. But then again I guess seeing and reading it 200 times is enough. Happy Hunting Eeyore.
The scoped and cocked crossbow is not the nail in the coffin for archery. It has however led to a rapid decline in the number of bow and arrow hunters, and this trend will continue until only a handful of true bow and arrow hunters exist, along with their culture. I have no issue with the scoped and cocked crossbow or the air gun, just realize the users are not bow and arrow hunters, and their trophies are diminished.
I appreciate knowing that most of my fellow bowhunters are of similar beliefs to mine. But, using facts and common sense in discussion with blind, dumb ignorant sheep only serves to spotlight the heights of their ignorance and hypocrisy.
Hup... there it is ... saying hup there it is... 201 and counting
To answer you FredSheep76 I never get to listen the great American Rush Limbaugh. Glad to hear his thoughts mimic mine. They should, they’re simply fact based and Rush and I both like facts.
Now the lie you’re referring to is what some leftist fishwrap claimed Trump said about WWI soldiers buried in France, right? Disproven lie, but that is what blind dumb sheep liberals like yourself base you beliefs in. Truly pathetic parasites these sheep who march for the Democrat Socialist Party.
Trax, do you ever watch the news? You can see your "leader" talk down about POW's directly from his mouth. You're the sheep. Unlike you, I support our troops, even the ones who were captured.
What you’re watching and calling news is the alphabet junk. Commie News Network, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNPMS etc. what they do is report some facts, water them and shape them with opinion, and the rest of the time tell outright lies. Facts can become lies if they are shaped to represent something out of context. To top it off they present their opinions as fact on a daily basis. Sheep love it when they do that one.
The only negative about troops or a soldier I ever heard President or candidate Trump say concerned John McCain. I disagreed with him on that. McCain was a military hero. An absolute disaster as a politician in every respect, but a hero for his service and sacrifice at that time.
Add everything up and that’s 1251 positives for Trump and 7 negatives. Obozo 1990 negatives and 0 positives. Hildabeast worse yet. Harris-Biden could break Hilda’s record. Thankfully we’ll never know. Sheep aren’t good at math.
