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From: crestedbutte
08-Dec-20

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Uh Oh, Bruce Webber and 1-5 Cats already mailing it in. Poor Div 2 Fort Hays State can’t even get their logo included with the score and their big time win.

From: crestedbutte
02-Jan-21

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Winning! KU obviously opted out of their game with Texas. K-State...being K-State

From: kscowboy
09-Jan-21
Where’s the sweaty camo truck stop-purchased hat today?

From: crestedbutte
09-Jan-21

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Blake...here ya go. Put it upside down since we lost with 13 sec. left in game. KU nation had pucker factor going for sure!

From: kscowboy
10-Jan-21
Thank you:).

KU is always going to get everyone’s best shot. It’s easier for a bad basketball team to beat a great basketball team versus a bad football team beating a great football team. At the moment, KU isn’t a great basketball team. But it’s Bill Self coaching and come February, they’ll be firing on all cylinders.

From: crestedbutte
10-Jan-21
Hope so....the Big 12 needs KU to be a good b-ball team like they need OU to be a good football team. If KU ain’t up to the task this year it’s looking like Baylor and Texas just might be?

From: writer
10-Jan-21
Allen Field House magic won't be there this year, nor any other home court advantage.

Still say the KU vs. Buddy game of 3-4 years ago was the best basketball game I've ever seen.

You still have the classiest bball coach in the league, Crested.

11-Jan-21
You guys are all for the Buckeyes over ‘bama tonight, right. Wrong sport I know but....

And how about those Browns?!!!

From: crestedbutte
11-Jan-21
Frank.....even though Sooners and Buckeye's have had some recent history (Sooners with Baker Mayfield and Trey Sermon whooping up on the Meyer coached Buckeyes in Columbus, OH ala Flag Planting at midfield 2017)…..I do indeed hope the Buckeye's take the SEC's one-team league Bama to the woodshed tonight. Glad to see Trey Sermon succeeding at OSU. Scary to think he was a 3rd string RB at OU before transferring to OSU last year.

Obviously, I am a Baker Mayfield fan but as porous as the Browns defense was in the 2nd half against Big Ben's Steelers....the Browns secondary is going to get abused by Mahomes and Co. Would be thrilled if Browns beat Chiefs but don't see it happening this year. Great season overall for the Browns (other than loss to Jets) and future looks bright!

From: t-roy
11-Jan-21
Sorry, Frank. I’d root for Russia before Ohio State!!

From: writer
11-Jan-21
Sorry, Frank, our Michigan-grad daughter in law would block us from seeing our grandkids if we pulled for the “#uckeyes.”

11-Jan-21
It’s Ok, we are getting stomped.

From: crestedbutte
13-Jan-21

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Frank....there is always next year?

Big 12 Basketball results from play last night! Blake....there is always the next game for KU? Sweaty, Crusty Camo Truck Stop Hat gets right side up! Boomer!

From: be still
18-Jan-21
About to be some claw marks on them Jayhawks a little later:)

From: MDW
18-Jan-21
Ain't looking to good a half time!!

From: be still
18-Jan-21
Can’t never count Kansas out though.

From: sitO
18-Jan-21

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From: crestedbutte
19-Jan-21

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Badda Bing!

From: writer
20-Jan-21
Wow, that’s even more than the Fort Hays massacre...except wasn’t it in Manhattan?

From: writer
20-Jan-21
Baylor is going to be a hard team to beat in March and April, though Scott Drew teams have wilted in the end, before.

From: be still
23-Jan-21
I bet I know what Mr. Wenzel is doing right now....might be getting to see a pic of that old cap again. Yeah Mr. Pearce...Baylor has sadly underachieved a few times in the tournament.

From: crestedbutte
23-Jan-21

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Yippeee! Still gotta a long way to go to get to Baylor’s level this year. Just gotta keep choppin dead wood. Crusty Hat ya’ll!

From: writer
23-Jan-21
Good win, Crested.

About time for Kruger to be moving on????

From: crestedbutte
23-Jan-21
Not likely...but who knows especially if there is a KU head coach vacancy?

He like all OU coaches wind up very happy in Norman!

From: dafish
23-Jan-21
Bruce Weber cannot recruit decent players. When he first became head coach at Southern Illinois he did great with the players he inherited, then after 3 years they slowly went down hill. Then he got the head coaching job at Illinois, when Bill Self went to Kansas, which had a top 5 recruiting year 2 years prior, took them to the tourney and slowly went downhill. Now at K-state, sort of the same scenario. I remember a couple years ago where McGurl was coming off the bench looking like he should be starting. After watching today's came I think he has regressed and they really do not have anyone much better

From: dafish
23-Jan-21
Bruce Weber cannot recruit decent players. When he first became head coach at Southern Illinois he did great with the players he inherited, then after 3 years they slowly went down hill. Then he got the head coaching job at Illinois, when Bill Self went to Kansas, which had a top 5 recruiting year 2 years prior, took them to the tourney and slowly went downhill. Now at K-state, sort of the same scenario. I remember a couple years ago where McGurl was coming off the bench looking like he should be starting. After watching today's came I think he has regressed and they really do not have anyone much better

From: sitO
23-Jan-21
State isn't firing on or hitting any cylinders...point blank they suck this year. I'm SO tired of watching them shoot 3's, if I were Weber they wouldn't even be allowed to try a 3 until the last 5sec of the shot clock.

Bill "I don't care about anyone but my" Self is obviously tanking the season, knowing that it will be "all for not" after the infractions. They're averaging 6pts a game off fast breaks? His fat butt will be gone after this season, and they'll be lucky to even make the tourney.

From: writer
26-Jan-21
Even bigger win, Crested. Sooners are on a heck of a roll.

See the little purple pekinese is back, with the same little ankle-biting yipping we’ve heard the past dozen years or so. Same crap last year...ended the season #1 seed in the tourney.

From: crestedbutte
26-Jan-21

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Mike....when you’re a Sooner, it’s always great to beat Texas no matter the sport and even better when you beat them in Austin! We have such a rivalry and hate for them we made sure to incorporate the “horns down” gesture in our logo!

With that win over Uterus Univ., we just beat our second top 10 team in a row and have two more coming up back to back (#9 Bama & #10 Texas Tech). Can OU win 4 straight against top 10 ranked teams...probably not but 2-0 so far?

Yeah, the EMAW’s from Blue Mont Central College are suckin a nut this year. I guess some basketball misery to go along with football.

Oh well, have ya’ll seen Crusty Hat before.....sure you have, Hee!, Hee!

From: writer
27-Jan-21
When you’re a non-Tex, anybody who beats them anywhere is a big deal. (Have been a TCU fan.) Soooooo loved the way Bill Snyder’s teams of walk-ons and two-stars basically dominated about every conference team down there for so many years.

From: writer
27-Jan-21
Ouch, whipped by 50.

From: be still
27-Jan-21
Putting up over a century tonight...maybe they need to call him back to coach the Basketball team.

From: crestedbutte
28-Jan-21
Be still...come on man....after all it was the Blue Mont Central College Wildcats that Baylor played last night. Call "him" back....who exactly are you referring to?

Lookout....TCU & KU tonight....could the Jayhawks lose 4 in a row? Probably not...Mike, I know you will know the answer to this how long ago was it that KU lost 4 in a row in basketball? If it starts looking that way...watch for Bill Self to bench everyone and suit up and take the court solo and lead the end of game fast breaks and full court pressure to pull out the win. The performance could be so legendary that it could make Kyle scared enough to get up off his couch and actually lock his front and back doors.

From: writer
28-Jan-21
No I don’t know. (Surprised PP doesn’t chime in and say it’ll be 400 in a row when the NCAA...)

Self had a good radio show on how different it is for college players this year. being so secluded, no interaction with fans...

Pretty sure Be was talking about bringing Bill Snyder back to coach basketball...or KU “football.”

From: cherney12
28-Jan-21
Yeah it's so different. More different for the teams that are losing more than usual. The teams having good seasons somehow adjusted, but the weirdness has been too much for Duke, Kansas, Kentucky...

From: crestedbutte
28-Jan-21
Never understood the love affair with Billy Dean Snyder....while at K-State his career winning % was .540. Am I correct, most of the sports world would view that as mediocre at best and most coaches would be fired with that winning % within 3-4 yrs. He unlike coaches today had a very, very long leash?

From: be still
28-Jan-21
Yeah Writer is right...I have faith that man could coach any sport and have success. Now Crested you know SOONER or later y’all will have to play the Bears again...I’m assuming they’re wishing for later:) Naw they seem to be feeling a little frisky in Norman and for pretty good reason...they have something stirring right now.

From: be still
28-Jan-21
Oh now Crested it’s my turn to say...Come on Man. I’ve always liked the Wildcats and like them even more now that I’m hunting up there. Look at that talent he had to work with...he didn’t have much to work with. After nearly every game I would be in awe and just shake my head and wondered how they just won or came close to winning. He was a dang good coach and even a better man.

From: crestedbutte
28-Jan-21
Be still.....apparently doesn't take much to impress you then? In all honesty I've had to shake my head a time or two as well. Glad I haven't had to do it much at all historically speaking. As they say...the sun shines on a dog's "you know what" every now and then. With Bill Snyder coaching at K-State for 25 yrs......that was only 1998, 2003, 2012. At KU that has only been 1947, 1968 and 2007. Baylor...a few years in football and a few in basketball including possibly this year. We shall see how it plays out though?

Yes sir, Sooners have something stirring right now. Hope in Norman on 2/10, they are stirring and serving up cooked bear?

From: be still
28-Jan-21
I don’t think there’s a recipe in the Sooner’s cookbook for a Grizzly this year. Longhorn meat....yes. Bear meat....no.

From: be still
28-Jan-21
Yeah I’m a pretty simple man and yes Coach Snyder always impressed me. Whenever you played that team you knew on that day no matter what team he had you better be bringing it cause they sure were. He wasn’t flashy nor was his players but they got respect from everyone. If a K State fan is beside you at the end of a game no matter if you won or lost you want to reach over and...shake their hand. All the other fans of other schools you want to reach over and...slappem. Go look up all the words for Honesty, Hardworking, Honor, Integrity...etc and that’s what Coach Snyder brought to you with his team. Can’t judge people on records...there is some hunters that shoot huge deer on High Fence Places every year that have great records but that doesn’t make them greater hunters than the people that hunt free range. As far as the talent level they get Oklahoma and Texas coaches remind me of High Fence Hunters...and here in the past 10 years or so the Longhorn coaches can’t even shoot big deer inside the High Fence.

From: writer
28-Jan-21
That’s not what he said or I said, Cherney. Obviously Cats have really gotten a mix up.

From: writer
28-Jan-21
That’s not what he said or I said, Cherney. Obviously Cats have really gotten a mix up.

From: be still
28-Jan-21
Well so far tonight the frogs ain’t jumping and the Jayhawks ain’t flying.

From: crestedbutte
29-Jan-21
Hmmm.....KU didn't beat TCU by much? Figure KU to lose a couple more at home before the year is over.

Tomorrow's basketball schedule looks good....Big 12 vs SEC!

From: writer
30-Jan-21
Tide rolled!!!!

From: be still
30-Jan-21
Even missing a spoke or two off of the wheel the ole sooner wagon still rolled over the tide....good win.

From: writer
30-Jan-21
Love to see Kruger get a National Championship. Class act and all Kansas.

From: crestedbutte
30-Jan-21

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Well....Big 12 is 1-0 against SEC right now with other games in play. Yep, in the early game my Sooners knocked off #9 Bama for their 3rd straight win against top 10 ranked teams...and did it without 2 starters with one of those being the teams leading scorer (COVID protocol). Next up, is #10 Tex Tech assuming they win their SEC match-up today.

Crusty hat is starting to smell some cooked bear in the wind currents!

From: be still
30-Jan-21
Ha yeah we got to grill some longhorn first. I like Baylor’s defense and they’re sharing the ball well on offense. Oklahoma has it going on as well...can’t wait for that one.

From: crestedbutte
10-Feb-21

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Really Jay Bilas.....you believe Baylor has played enough games for their current ranking?
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Really Jay Bilas.....you believe Baylor has played enough games for their current ranking?
My Sooners are supposed to be whoopin up on #2 Baylor tonight but instead the bears are ducking the Sooners and apparently everyone else too. At this point Baylor has postponed over 50% of the scheduled games. At this rate, they are going to be playing make up games well into April. Don’t believe they would be undefeated or #2 if they had played even half of their postponed games. They are fake news and should be dropped out of the top 10.

Baylor....get your freakin house in order!

From: cherney12
10-Feb-21
OH boy... you either haven't watched them or are just talking noise. They're pretty damn good.

From: crestedbutte
10-Feb-21
Well rested Paper Tigers!

From: be still
10-Feb-21
Ha yeah I heard they didn’t have enough players available to meet the big 12 protocol. But this long wait I think could hurt them...hopefully they come back in rhythm. I was sure looking forward to tonight...I was even going to find an old Camo BU cap today in town just to post it tonight. Crested...some of my most dreaded moments as a kid was when I did something wrong in public and my dad would tell me I had one coming later when we got home. Always wished he would just have taken his belt off right then and get it over with instead of having to deal with the misery of what I had coming. That’s probably what the sooners are feeling right now and I feel for them:)

From: crestedbutte
10-Feb-21
Belts....seriously? You guys have it easy in Texican Land! If there actually is a make up game and OU wins, I will hand you a knife so you can go cut yourself a switch so you can take your medicine OKIE style!

You not only still have to deal with the misery coming but have to live with another bad choice made if picking/cutting the wrong switch! Heck, who am I kidding...you can never pick the “right” switch as they all sting like the dickens! Will take a belt over a switch any day!

From: be still
10-Feb-21
Oh no If I had the choice back then it would have been the switch...then again my momma was the one that used the switch. My sister got out of whipping one time cause when she was told to go get a switch she went outside and brought back a sunflower stalk...guessed she thought it wouldn’t hurt as bad. Momma started laughing too much and lost the heart to give her one.

From: sitO
10-Feb-21
Always suspected you two were a couple of "switch-hitters" ;?)

From: be still
10-Feb-21
Whoa about made a fool of myself and nearly stepped into that one...did not know that phrase was no longer connected to baseball. Sure glad I looked that one up first.

From: writer
10-Feb-21
Baylor is as good of team the Big 12 has seen....since KU, last season.

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From: cherney12
11-Feb-21
They beat that team by 12 in AFH and are better now. They could win it all. KU could have last year as well.

From: writer
11-Feb-21
Jayhawks up 34, with four minutes to go and all subs in.

Haven’t seen that often enough this year.

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11-Feb-21
Jayhawks up 34, with four minutes to go and all subs in.

Haven’t seen that often enough this year.

From: be still
13-Feb-21
Alright Cresty l guess you can bring out ole Crusty once again.

From: crestedbutte
16-Feb-21

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Good win in double overtime and on their home court to boot. That win has the good guys back in the top 10 at #9. Still choppin away at dead wood.

From: writer
17-Feb-21
As I'm sure you're wondering, it'll be interesting to see how Baylor's team responds to so much time off. You have to wonder how in the heck they'll have time to reschedule so many games. Michigan had been off a few weeks and struggled first half (daughter-in-law is an alum, so we follow) but came back strong in the second half and beat a ranked Wisconsin.

Strange seasons, as all have been. Still love to see Kruger get a national championship.

Great person who represents his team, that university, his alma mater and home state so well.

From: cherney12
17-Feb-21
They won't.

Teams will meet sport sponsorship requirements and be considered for NCAA championship selection if they play 13 games, which represents a 50 percent reduction of the current minimum. For NCAA championship consideration, all 13 games must be against another Division I opponent. The Division I Men's Basketball and Division I Women's Basketball committees also recommended teams play a minimum of four nonconference games.

From: crestedbutte
17-Feb-21

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Cherney...you are right. I believe Baylor has met these minimum requirements and thus are Ducking everyone from here on out. A strategic plan by their AD. Will have a great laugh at their expense if they get bounced from the Tourney game 1.

The title of the attached pic should be “Will They Really?” I for one don’t believe they will play their 3 remaining games (Iowa St., WV, KU) to finish out their Big 12 schedule.

From: be still
17-Feb-21
I really hoped they had gotten to play a...little sooner:)

From: ksq232
17-Feb-21
I don’t know what’s going on with Baylor, but it is not good optics at all.

From: writer
17-Feb-21
Be interesting. Scott Drew has had some great teams fail miserably in the post season.

From: cherney12
17-Feb-21
So has Bill Self and Jay Wright and Coach K and John Calipari and Rick Pitino and Jim Boeheim and....

From: cherney12
17-Feb-21

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Good reading since it's been so long since we've seen an upset..

From: writer
17-Feb-21
...and those coaches have multiple Final Fours and national championships.

From: crestedbutte
17-Feb-21
Be Still....I see what you did there well played, Sir!

Cherney...ain't gonna lie...#17 from that list still hurts to this day. #4 was beautiful as I rode VCU the whole way and because of them I smoked everyone in my office March Madness Pool to win a cool $575.00. I only picked VCU that year because a few weeks prior I attended the ESPN Bracket Busters game (VCU vs. Wichita State) at Wichita St. and VCU came away with a 1 pt. win. Figured if they could beat that WSU team at Charles Koch Arena then they were probably pretty dang good. I was the only one that had them in my pool and I had them making atleast the Final Four!

Mike....Bill Self can't be included in that category of which you speak because as a coach (assistant, head or otherwise).....he has only won 1 natty...not multiple natty's like the other "great" coaches Cherney mentioned above. So, his name shall forever be removed from this list atleast until he wins his next one, fair statement?

From: sitO
17-Feb-21
I picked Bucknell and Bradley...and yea I won the pool's both years

From: cherney12
17-Feb-21
Cats rotation players were 1/22 from 3. Pretty sure KB could do better than that against KU while wearing his snake chaps.

From: sitO
17-Feb-21
He's a game changer

From: KB
17-Feb-21
1/22

“Just sounds nasty...”

From: KB
17-Feb-21
1/22

“Just sounds nasty...”

From: sitO
17-Feb-21

From: kscowboy
18-Feb-21
...pretty much is”

Gotta love a Ray Wylie Hubbart reference!

From: writer
18-Feb-21
Hey Cherney, they forgot one major upset, in March of 1988. That was when KU sent K-State back home, denying them a trip to the Final Four for the first time in 24 years. Gee, what's it been now? 57 years? I don't even think Kyle was born then.

Been some disappointments, but when you've been more consecutive times than any school, and you're routinely a #1-4 seed, there are more opportunities for upsets.

Let's see - Self's in the Basketball Hall of Fame, voted in by his peers and other basketball professionals. Who knows more about the game, and where he stands, those professionals or an OU fan always looking for a scab to pick at? Boy, that's a tough one!

Kyle - who'd you bet on last night to win? KU has their worst team in 20 years and they slaughtered the Wildcats, twice.

Good to see Wichita State managing to have a pretty good season after all the changes.

Still pulling for Kruger. Great person/coach. We kind of owe him since we kept him out of the Final Four all those years ago.

57 years, can that be right?

From: cherney12
18-Feb-21
Wish we could say the Cats are headed in the right direction but the opposite is true...... it's painful to watch. Thankfully we'll likely have a new coach next year.

You don't have to remind anyone about Self being in the HOF. Everyone knows that. Heck it was his nickname with his recruiting partners from Adidas...

From: writer
18-Feb-21
Wasn't that long ago that Frank Martin had them a true national powerhouse. That was fun.

Going to take good recruiting and good coaching to do well in the Big 12. Very solid conference, especially with Tech coming on.

From: crestedbutte
18-Feb-21
Frank Martin...really....in the 5 yrs. he coached at Blue Mont Central College he only had a single run to the elite 8 but the other 3 tourney appearances he got bounced in 2nd round and same results in NIT. It was certainly fun to watch him go all Bobby Knight on everyone. IMO, his biggest contribution in those 5 yrs of coaching in the Big 12 was sideline entertainment.

From: writer
19-Feb-21
Nothing counts but the tourney, huh?

Why waste time with those other 30 games? They’re not important, but you sure post a your old hat after OU wins.

The year the Cats and Jayhawks met in Allen Field House, both in the top five, Martin was the coach.

From: crestedbutte
19-Feb-21
Yes..how a team does post season in men’s basketball is what they are primarily remembered by. Kind of like when KU plays killer “B” teams.

From: kscowboy
19-Feb-21
Come to think of it, I kind of remember 1988...

From: crestedbutte
19-Feb-21
Heck of a game...but wrong team won, HA!

From: writer
20-Feb-21
The whole 87-88 season jolt towards the end. KU home winning streak was going to end and a lot of us preferred Kruger get it, before Tubbs or Coach K came to town. Lost all three, then for a chance to beat all three to the championship.

50-50 at half at the 50th championship.

“Kansas can run with Oklahoma, but they can not beat Oklahoma,”— Billy Packer.

From: ksq232
20-Feb-21
Baylor missing ANOTHER game??

From: crestedbutte
20-Feb-21
They aren't slated to play again until Tues. 2/23 against Iowa St. As posted above, I think they are done with their regular season schedule.....only thing is no one outside their program knows that. I guess we'll see?

From: be still
20-Feb-21
Yeah I just checked to see what time they were playing today only to find that out...gosh dang. 3 weeks off is a long time. Heard a little something that maybe with them missing that many games they might do something different in crowning a big 12 championship. That would probably be fair.

From: writer
21-Feb-21
Unfortunate all the way around.

Teams hoping to "make a run," could have used the experience of playing a team like Baylor. Any team that came out of the Big 12 strong this season would have to be sitting pretty into the tournament.

From: crestedbutte
21-Feb-21

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Still choppin dead wood!

From: sitO
21-Feb-21
We want Kapun MT Carmel for the rematch

From: writer
23-Feb-21
Sweatband getting a bit damp in that old hat? Tied at half?

From: be still
23-Feb-21
He’s got a purple Camo cap now.

From: cherney12
23-Feb-21
Rawr

From: writer
23-Feb-21
Wow, didn’t see that one coming. beat a top 10 team. Wish I’d have watched that game, instead.

From: sitO
23-Feb-21

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From: cherney12
23-Feb-21
Lol

From: writer
24-Feb-21

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This one. I know is named, Kyle.

Still nipping at ankles, thinking it makes him a big dog. Same thing year after year after year— he’s gone, lucky to make the tourney...

Big win, Cherney. Is that good news or bad as per your coach?

From: writer
24-Feb-21
The list of make-up games looks pretty tight for some.

From: cherney12
24-Feb-21
Might have saved his job. Not sure if that's good news or bad news. Seems like this team could be decent eventually if they get in the gym enough to learn how to shoot the ball.

From: be still
24-Feb-21
Yeah they left some points on the board by missing a lot of them OPEN threes. Ole Curly came through at the end with some though.

From: crestedbutte
24-Feb-21
Playing in Manhattan is Lon Kruger’s kryptonite....or his devious plan to keep Bruce Weber there? 3 more scheduled games (2 straight against red hot Okie St. and final game against a very good Texas team). Hope to win’em all to get good seating in tourney. However, have a feeling we’ll probably go 2 for 3 at best.

I see Baylor actually played last night and knocked all that rust off against ISU (the last place team in Big 12). Only won by 5pts or something and didn’t blow them out like some would expect a legitimate #2 team to do. Good for them....at this point they have actually played approx. 50% of their scheduled season. BOOMER!

From: cherney12
24-Feb-21
They’ve played 2 less games than OU. Prolly need to find something else to knock them about as they’ll be the Big 12 champs and a #1 seed.

From: be still
25-Feb-21
They didn’t play like the #2 team the other night for sure....but only having one practice in that 3 week span and only 2 days before game I guess you can expect a drop off. I don’t know Patrick...Saturday’s game has me worried. Kansas starting to play now and then having 3 games next week. Could be interesting to see how they respond.

From: ksq232
25-Feb-21
I despise most KU fans, sorry just had to get that off my chest. Btw, I’m a KU fan....for now. I just have to keep reminding myself there are sane KU fans out there. I HAVE to stop going to the politics board on the phog. Lol

From: crestedbutte
25-Feb-21
News flash....tonight’s Baylor vs. WV game of course was postponed.

From: ksq232
25-Feb-21
Baylor is a joke...unless of course, West Virginia postponed.

From: be still
25-Feb-21
This wasn’t last minute....big 12 shut them down. They didn’t want any team playing 3 games a week...2 weeks in a row.

From: crestedbutte
26-Feb-21
Well, we all know that team playing 3 games /week for 2 weeks in a row sure wasn't Baylor. Big 12 is just adding to the wussification of America. Getting sick of how it is permiating our society. Yeah,yeah,yeah I know "it was done to protect the athletes." Stop with that already.

From: writer
27-Feb-21
Looks like OSU just added to the wussification of your Sooners???

From: crestedbutte
27-Feb-21
Ha, Ha....this was a game we really needed to win. Have to turn around and play them in Stoolwater for next game. A very tough place to get a win. Hope we aren’t heading down skid row now all of a sudden?

From: writer
27-Feb-21
...you mean like K-State did.

Talk about a tale of two games.

From: writer
27-Feb-21
Well, that was fun to watch.

Geez, out-rebounded them by 18, beat the #2 team and “...will be lucky to make the tournament.”

Looking forward to Monday’s “bedlam.” Should be a good one.

From: be still
27-Feb-21
Yepper...baylor is in trouble. They could be done son.

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01-Mar-21

From: writer
02-Mar-21
Well, it was a heck of a game...

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02-Mar-21

From: crestedbutte
02-Mar-21
Believe me....no you don’t! That Cunningham kid has just taken that poke team on his back and practically won both those bedlam games single handily.

From: t-roy
02-Mar-21
You guys are just lucky you don’t play in the BIG 10 this year!

From: be still
02-Mar-21
We’ll be meeting them soon if they make it that far:)....it’s going to be a Big 12 final four. Might as well move the games to Kansas City.

From: writer
02-Mar-21
Not like the Big 12 has been a cakewalk.

Joe Lunardi has six of the ten teams as 4-seeds or higher. Interesting that in both conferences, the top team has missed the most games.

Predictions for Baylor at WV?

From: cherney12
02-Mar-21
Huggie doesn't seem to have the ability to win big games very often.

From: Catscratch
02-Mar-21
And... Baylor is coming off a loss. It's sometimes unfortunate to be the team that plays a good team "next".

From: be still
02-Mar-21
Baylor isn’t looking too grizzly right now. First game they looked horrible and against Kansas they seemed to be getting their defense back but their offense still wasn’t there. I expect them to struggle some the rest of the conference games but be ready by then to put on a dance show up in Indy. Game is early today though....they play at 4:00 followed by Illinois vs Michigan. Good watching this evening.

From: be still
02-Mar-21
Just wished one of their remaining games was against the Sooners so we could pick up an easy win:)

From: writer
02-Mar-21
Big 12 tournament could be pretty one-sided.

From: be still
02-Mar-21
Yeah you’re right...only one team ends up winning it.

From: cherney12
02-Mar-21
Baylor gonna dominate everyone?

From: writer
02-Mar-21
That’d be my expectation, Cherney.

From: sitO
02-Mar-21
Have we all forgotten how the Big 12 generally fairs in the tourney? We'll just see how good they really are.

From: be still
02-Mar-21
Mike I don’t think so...a lot of teams in the big 12 has gotten a bit better this 2nd half around. T-roy I was just messing with you earlier a little but after watching Illinois and Michigan tonight I stick by those words. If those are the 2 best teams the Big 10 has then they might exit pretty early. Wisconsin and Perdue looked slow as well. Went back tonight and looked through their schedules and can’t understand why they have the big 10 ranked that high. They do have some size in the paint though.

From: writer
03-Mar-21
You mean like how well K-State does in BCS bowls, Kyle?

Michigan was a disappointment last night. (They’re our #2 team since our DIL is a faithful alum.)

From: writer
03-Mar-21
You mean like how well K-State does in BCS bowls, Kyle?

Michigan was a disappointment last night. (They’re our #2 team since our DIL is a faithful alum.)

From: sitO
03-Mar-21
I think you know exactly what I mean Mike ;?)

From: crestedbutte
03-Mar-21
I’ll be the gentlemen that I am....as congrats are in order for Be Still and his bears clinching their first Big 12 bb title. Finish strong and even though next week is full of make-up games, I hope for the best for all Big 12 teams that make the “big dance!”

From: writer
03-Mar-21
Kyle, you don’t even know what you mean much of the time.

Yes, congrats on the first conference title since Truman was president....which will be far fewer years than between KU football championships.

From: be still
03-Mar-21
Thanks but y’all are jumping the gun way too quick. They have 2 games remaining and if they lose both of them that leaves them finished at 11-3. Kansas is 12-6. There is 4 games being left on the table they can’t play....3 of those 4 being Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia. All very capable of beating the bears so they better not accept anything right now.

From: sitO
04-Mar-21

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More KU "goodness"

and down by 15 to Utep...precious

From: The Kid
05-Mar-21
Pretty cringeworthy......

From: writer
05-Mar-21

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Pre-KU and not disclosed. Wonder if they’ll nullify his contract? Could cost the AD his job, too. Such a train wreck.

Score at the middle of the game doesn’t count. See how it ended, PP?

Looks like a decent seed in the tournament.

Man, can’t be much fun living a life with so much negativity and unhappiness. Wonder if you could go to Dollar General and buy a happier one?

From: writer
05-Mar-21
Pre-KU and not disclosed. Wonder if they’ll nullify his contract? Could cost the AD his job, too. Such a train wreck.

Score at the middle of the game doesn’t count. See how it ended, PP?

Looks like a decent seed in the tournament.

Man, can’t be much fun living a life with so much negativity and unhappiness. Wonder if you could go to Dollar General and buy a happier one?

From: sitO
05-Mar-21
I just hate cheaters, and people w/no ethics Mike, you know this.

From: KB
09-Mar-21
Have to run out Mr Long as well don’t you? Bobby Petrino and now this. Not sure I’d feel comfortable with him replacing Bill when/if that takes place. Already plenty of issues on the round ball side of things.

From: writer
09-Mar-21
Long has to go, either for knowing and doing nothing or not knowing because he didn’t do enough background work before the hire.

Just when the train wreck seems the worst of all time, another locomotive comes barreling down the tracks.

From: kscowboy
09-Mar-21
KU football is cursed. I swear the Anderson Family Football Complex was built upon an old Indian burial ground back in 2008. Convince me otherwise.

From: writer
09-Mar-21
Hard to argue Cowboy.

A good hunting buddy's family, (not E.M) donated $1.4M to the football program about the time the Anderson complex was being built. He died a few years ago,...but I learned to stop bringing the subject up in the duck blind!

Somewhere, there should be a really nice plaque with their name on it, though. :-)

From: crestedbutte
09-Mar-21

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Mark Mangino called and is waiting on line #1?

Also, be very very careful about including #2 Baylor in your NCAA Tourney brackets. Teams that can’t meet COVID protocol have to forfeit their upcoming game and thus are out of the tourney. There will not be any re-scheduled games.

Taking that into account good luck when selecting your teams. I figure Baylor will either forfeit their first or second game of the tourney!

From: be still
10-Mar-21
Ha Crested it sounded like about the whole team had it so they should be good to go now.

From: writer
10-Mar-21
That's what I was thinking. Not only did Baylor not have to play as many games, they head into the tournament with most of the team past any concern.

KU won't have McCormick during the Big 12 tourney. He's probably their least replaceable player.

What a cluster...

From: ksq232
10-Mar-21
Bye, bye Long...

From: writer
10-Mar-21
.... now the “search” begins.

Who would want to coach in that football program, and AD with the football and basketball challenges.

From: sitO
10-Mar-21
MacGyver?

From: crestedbutte
10-Mar-21

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KU.....Mark Mangino is still holding on line #1? He could be HC and AD all in one gigantic body!

From: writer
10-Mar-21
David Copperfield

From: sitO
10-Mar-21
We comin fo you Baylor

From: crestedbutte
11-Mar-21

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Feels good to stop the recent skid with a win over ISU!

From: writer
11-Mar-21
Sweet band in that OU cap must have gotten a lot darker the last 6-7 games.

From: t-roy
11-Mar-21
No Hilton “South” magic this year.

From: sitO
11-Mar-21
Sad to see ISU fall so hard and so fast, bet they're looking forward to "writing off" that season.

From: be still
11-Mar-21
Don’t want Baylor to lose but it would be kind of cool to see the 3PT purple shooting team get on a run and win the tournament to get in. I think they could win a few in the big one against another conference.

From: t-roy
11-Mar-21
I’m thinking Prohm is definitely on the hot seat...... Maybe Nebraska will fire Hoiberg and ISU can bring him back to Ames. Overall, Prohm has done a good job, except for this year, but it’s a results oriented business, for sure. ISU fans would be ecstatic if they could bring “The Mayor” back.

From: cherney12
11-Mar-21
Why on Earth would Nebraska fire Hoiberg?

From: t-roy
11-Mar-21
Wishful thinking on the Clones fan’s part...

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11-Mar-21

From: writer
11-Mar-21
Never worried...in the past 18.2 seconds. Whew.

From: writer
11-Mar-21
Never worried...in the past 18.2 seconds. Whew.

From: kscowboy
11-Mar-21
Where’s that sweaty hat from the Love’s sale bin?

From: writer
12-Mar-21

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Would be interesting, though I'd rather he go back to coaching basketball big guys.

Even Sito would have to respect this guy. Wait a minute, what am I talking about....need more coffee.

From: sitO
12-Mar-21
I actually like Danny, but he's got too much class to get involved in that $hit$how. Wouldn't wish that job off on a one-eyed ferret with mange.

From: ksq232
12-Mar-21
KU out of Big 12 Tourney. Out of the big one too?

From: writer
12-Mar-21
And for possibly the first time in as long as I’ve read the rants, he may be right. “...KU will be lucky to make it to the tournament.”

Manning’s class and respect is what the “shitshow” needs.

From: kscowboy
12-Mar-21
Mike, you are too kind with your description...

From: Quailhunter
12-Mar-21
Go Pokes!

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12-Mar-21

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From: be still
12-Mar-21
They’re playing good ball now.

From: kscowboy
12-Mar-21
I bet BayLOL is wishing they had a positive COVID today...

From: Quailhunter
13-Mar-21
We’ve waited a long time for some good basketball.

From: writer
13-Mar-21
You’ve got it now.

So much in the time of the two tourneys is matchups and who is playing their best of the year, at that time. That’s what made a year ago disappointing for Kansas fans.

Hope they can win seven or so in a row. OSU is our #3 Big 12 team.

From: writer
13-Mar-21
.Congats to Texas, and Shaka Smart.

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14-Mar-21

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From: writer
14-Mar-21
...no, Missouri .

All that stuff I accuse Kyle of...Im100-percent with against MU.

HeckX we had a real shooting and looting war with them before things became fashionable.

Go Sooners!

From: ksq232
14-Mar-21
The Cowboys got royally jobbed. How in the world are they not a 3 seed over West Virginia. They should be seeded as high or higher than the Jayhawks.

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14-Mar-21

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From: cherney12
15-Mar-21
Yeah they got OSU wrong. Did a pretty good job overall, though, I'd say.

From: sitO
15-Mar-21
Missing Jeff's "KS Bowsite" tourney challenge!

From: sitO
15-Mar-21

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From: writer
15-Mar-21
Was thinking a few days ago we're missing his insight. Hope he's well.

From: be still
19-Mar-21
Sure hope big 12 comes through...got all 7 teams in the elite 8 on my bracket.

From: sitO
19-Mar-21
You picked KU to make it past the first round? C'mon man

From: be still
19-Mar-21
Yeah it’s painful to say but they started coming around towards the end.

From: be still
19-Mar-21
Big 10 starting off flexing their muscle with Ohio State.

From: writer
19-Mar-21
Frank? Frank?

From: MDW
19-Mar-21
What happened to Ohio St. ? Bet screwed up a lot of your brackets!

From: be still
20-Mar-21
What happened is they’re part of the Little 10 conference. Somebody else from there didn’t make any Boilers last night as well.

From: writer
20-Mar-21
Heck of fun game to watch.Grove brothers may have had the best games of the tournament.

Down two good players. Shallow bench. Big man gassed from Covid. (Matt Shook's version, not...)

Come on Sooners, you HAVE to beat Misery.

From: sitO
20-Mar-21
Bet there was some "hand-wringing" at half-time lol

There went my bracket

From: Catscratch
20-Mar-21
I really enjoyed the Grove brothers. Kind of wish they could have played together a little longer, maybe because my boys are too far apart in age to play together... The oldest is a senior this year who had a double double on any given night, and the youngest is a 7th grader who hit right at 50% from the 3pt line this year. Would have been fun to have them together for a pick and role!

Brackets are busted here! The only good news in that department is that everybody's bracket is busted. I love the underdog. Got to root for the low seed to make an upset even if I loose a buck.

From: writer
20-Mar-21
The Groves have a heck of a story to tell their kids an grandkids. How many times have we seen that in the tournament...guys have by far their biggest game, guys who haven't taken a three all season make several. Appreciate the Sooners win. Now, if they can beat Gonzaga.

From: be still
21-Mar-21
Holy smokes...there a little over 2 hours away from me and I’m not sure if I remember even hearing about them. That’s how small Abilene Christian is. I was pulling for Abilene at the end even though I had Texas going to the final....you gotta love it.

From: writer
21-Mar-21
That was a heck of a game. Total enrollment of 4,500. Little teams laying it all out, guys having career games makes the tournament extra-special! Those players and fans have mementos to frame and hang!

or

Geez! How embarrassing. Program is in the tank. Shaka Smart will be gone before next season. (Oh, wait, that’s only if KU gets bounced!)

From: writer
21-Mar-21
Watching Loyola-Chicago and Illinois.

Gee, why does Loyola-Chicago ring a bell?

Little tiny school beat somebody to get to the Final Four in 2018.

They were fun to watch that year.

From: crestedbutte
21-Mar-21

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Our win over Mizzou would have been more satisfying if coaches were named Tubbs and Stewart! Man I miss those days and attended all those games since I grew up 3 blocks away from Lloyd Noble Center!

Poor, poor Texas. The boys from Abilene Christian will never have to pay for a meal in their city ever again. They had the “horns down” going that is for sure.

Look out Zags...here comes some Boomer & Sooner!

From: be still
21-Mar-21
Jason I got your Sooners taking them down and if they do drinks are on me next time I’m up there.

From: crestedbutte
21-Mar-21
Yes, Sir...you got it!

From: ksq232
21-Mar-21
When Baylor is firing on all cylinders, they are unstoppable. Drew loses them sometimes though...

From: writer
21-Mar-21
Good call on the “-Big 10.”

Guess they won’t have that “all Big Ten Final Four.”

Baylor looked so solid.

From: writer
21-Mar-21
Good call on the “-Big 10.”

Guess they won’t have that “all Big Ten Final Four.”

Baylor looked so solid.

From: sitO
21-Mar-21
I was at that game Mike, it was NOT fun to watch ;?)

Im in Rogers AR tonight, at a sports bar, and all helll just broke loose!

From: be still
21-Mar-21
Yepper....2 easy missed layups and a missed free throw by a good shooter at the end. Arkansas should feel very fortunate. Hell one wasn’t even a layup...he was right under the basket. 999 out of a thousand he makes it...pisses me off. Big 12 is starting to fall off.

From: writer
21-Mar-21
Three straight games the team I'm pulling for has multiple chances at the end...and fail.

From: t-roy
21-Mar-21
Did it last for the full 40 minutes, sitO?? ;-)

From: writer
22-Mar-21
Four straight Cowboys shot less than 30 percent and missed 22 free throws.

This is wild, even for the tournament.

From: be still
22-Mar-21
I feel really bad for them...their defensive pressure was great in the 2nd half but you’re right the rim wasn’t friendly to em.

From: crestedbutte
22-Mar-21

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From: writer
22-Mar-21
Oklahoma has had some nice runs.

Unfortunately, Gonzaga plays with a 40-minute run. Geez, they're really good.

All of my hopes and dreams are shifting more and more to Baylor.

KU plays another pair of gargantuan brothers tonight, and one of them is a projected NBA lottery pick!

Dang. Why can’t we draw that double-digit seed that lucked into beating somebody earlier in the tourney.

Oh, wait, we’ve tried that a few times.

From: crestedbutte
22-Mar-21

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We hung with’em to the end or atleast until ticky tack fouling took over to kill clock. First time this year Zags held below 50% shooting. It hurt having our 2nd leading scorer out due to COVID.

Zags just too much! Assume we just got beat by the eventual Nat’l. Champs? Good Luck Baylor & KU!

From: be still
22-Mar-21
I had to work on one my jobs so I didn’t get to watch it but I’ve seen the Zags play a little this season and they seem to have a complete team. With Big 12 falling Baylor might not be as good as I thought they were....we’ll see.

From: Mark S
22-Mar-21
Really good thread. If the bet was Gonzaga or the Field, you'd usually always take the field over just 1 team. But, imo they are the best team this year. Yes, Baylor is very good and others. Fun to watch and see what happens.

From: writer
22-Mar-21
Our turn for the shrinking rim. A 6-10 guy 4/4 from three. Only in the tournament.

Go Baylor!... and Michigan (daughter-in-law is an alumn)

From: cherney12
22-Mar-21
Didn’t expect them to lose by 30... yikes

From: cherney12
22-Mar-21

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He was 7/10 over the last 9 games... maybe he should shoot threes more often

From: sitO
22-Mar-21

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Isn't there a 15 run rule or something?

The only good news about that game is that it will all be wiped away when they're in NCAA prison.

From: One Arrow
23-Mar-21
Came for Kyle’s comment... didn’t disappoint

From: writer
23-Mar-21
On its best day of the season, this year’s team couldn’t have stayed within 10 the way USC played last night. Azz-kicking from coach on down.

Sticking with the university from which wife of 40 years , two kids and I have 8 degrees and great careers.

Tough times about to get tougher.

Kyle, when you finally go to Dollar General, see if you pick us up a football coach and AD.??

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23-Mar-21

From: crestedbutte
23-Mar-21
Mike....I’ll say it again Mark Mangino football coach/AD/Self’s replacement following NCAA sanctions is waiting on line #1?

From: writer
23-Mar-21
Self isn’t going anywhere for a while, guilty or not. He won’t step down and no new AD, if they find one, will fire him right away.

Look for the assistant coach to fall on his sword,...then land a pretty good head coaching job at a mid-major or DII.

I don’t trust the NCAA, a bit. Duke never gets checked...and that’s where the player KU is accused of trying to pay ended up.

UNC had dozens of instances of cheating for grades. Not much punishment.

Mizzu had a-grad assistant go haywire and the NCAA clobbered them...and it’s hard for me to feel sorry for anything Mizzu!

From: cherney12
23-Mar-21
The fact that this "investigation" is dragging out so long pretty well kills any credibility the NCAA had left. No doubt a lot of schools cheated and probably still are. The problem is that the NCAA acts like they want a fair playing field but are too worried about money to have the "results" of an investigation come out at an inopportune time that could hurt their bottom line. They're all about money and it's not fair at all to any of the involved parties.

From: writer
25-Mar-21

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None of my friends who’ve played D1 or been involved with D1 athletes are fans of the NCAA.

I saw this on television over the weekend.

A lot of people cash some major checks because of these athletes.

From: writer
25-Mar-21
..:and Ron Kruger is retiring. Heck of a career..

From: KB
25-Mar-21

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None of your friends have ever been hindered by the NCAA either. This is an Isaiah Livers draft grading. No one is forcing that kid to play college basketball. He could’ve declared or gone overseas years ago. Instead he stuck it out, had a nice career and looks to be getting a general studies degree. 13 and 6 seniors don’t usually tear up the League, so I’d say CBS and the NCAA just provided him with his best career move possible. Wearing a woke t-shirt and acting like a clown in front of millions of eyeballs. No one other than Juwan Howard is cashing checks because of Isaiah Livers.

From: crestedbutte
25-Mar-21

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Lost a good one to retirement today! Enjoy retirement Lon! Will be interesting who OU hires to replace him.

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25-Mar-21

From: ksq232
25-Mar-21
Lon will be missed, he’s a great coach.

From: writer
27-Mar-21

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Happy Anniversary! That was a fun run. Long ago. Only been married 7 years, now 40. Kids were 3 and 1.

From: writer
27-Mar-21
Happy Anniversary! That was a fun run. Long ago. Only been married 7 years, now 40. Kids were 3 and 1.

From: Catscratch
27-Mar-21
Writter, that game was played on my 15th birthday. I didn't have a wife, but we won State in both Cross Country and Track that yr. It was a good yr.

From: sitO
27-Mar-21
I was at K-State and we were tearing down your goal post ;?)

From: writer
27-Mar-21
No kidding, Cat!

The teams were so bad back then, Kyle, they’d tear down a goal post if they got a first down...

You there when they burned part of Aggieville after beating a horrible KU team?

From: Catscratch
27-Mar-21
No kidding Writter... I wasn't married in 88.

From: be still
28-Mar-21
Thanks to a pair of Bama’s baggy shorts....Bob Marley And The Bruins are playing the Wolverines.

From: TwoDogs@work
29-Mar-21
I was married and remember the game well. I wonder if Crested remembers who they played in the finale.

From: writer
29-Mar-21
Was a sweet end of the season. KSU, Duke and OU, all three had beat KU earlier.

What a shock, ...but Billy Tubbs was an ass when they win in Lawrence, then...

From: sitO
30-Mar-21
A couple of great games tonight! Heckuva a run for AR, but ya cain't go 8 of the last 10min w/o a field goal. Glad to see Baylor push through for "the Drew"!

From: writer
30-Mar-21
Have been some dandies, including both last night.

Baylor may be “Drew-proof” this year. ??

From: be still
30-Mar-21
Baylor’s intensity on defense seemed to be lacking a little last night. Luckily some shots fell for them and Arkansas wasn’t quick enough to stay in front of the guards. Be pretty cool to see them win the next 2.

From: cherney12
30-Mar-21
they got up 29-11... hard to keep the intensity throughout a game when you are up almost 20 points in the blink of an eye. They're gonna win it all.

From: crestedbutte
30-Mar-21

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Mike & Lee...of course I remember. Since we are taking a trip down memory lane, may I remind you of the other 1988 team accomplishments that year. Half that team including Danny M. should have been in-eligible to play that year. Due to NCAA's slow investigation process they cost OU or Duke a Natty.

To think this teams multiple violations (too many to mention) had the NCAA contemplating the "death penalty" for the program….but instead just treated them like the legal system currently treats poachers. Natty should have been stripped from them.

You guys look at that pic. with awe and prestige. When I look at that picture...well it's like looking at someone's 180-200 class buck on the wall knowing it was shot over a feeder. Darn Shame!

From: ksq232
30-Mar-21
1988 NCAA violations you say? Lol, pot meet kettle....

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-20-sp-702-story.html

NORMAN, Okla. — The University of Oklahoma football program, which has won six national championships, was handed a 3-year probation Monday for repeated recruiting violations that National Collegiate Athletic Assn. officials said the school should have controlled. The school administration and Coach Barry Switzer said the penalties, including a 2-year ban from bowl games, no live television next season and recruiting restrictions, were too harsh, and interim university president David Swank said the decision would be appealed.

The Sooners were charged in an NCAA report with 20 recruiting violations over the past 8 years.

The NCAA report said Oklahoma’s football staff gave a recruit an envelope with $1,000 in cash, scalped game tickets and arranged for free airline tickets for players.

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Switzer wrote personal checks to pay for players’ rental cars and to supplement salaries of assistant coaches, then allegedly lied to the NCAA about what he told his superiors, the report said.

An assistant coach got into a “bidding war” for a recruit, lied about it to the NCAA and then tried to get witnesses to change testimony, the report said.

Switzer denied there was any pattern of wrongdoing during his 16-year tenure as coach.

“I know, and I believe that our coaches know, that we do not violate NCAA rules,” Switzer said.

From: writer
30-Mar-21

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Kinda like somebody looking down their nose at a high fence 200 bow kill right after they rifle-killed a high fence 150.

From: sitO
30-Mar-21
By my calculations, the Zags woulda beat KU by 53

They suffocate opponents.

From: crestedbutte
31-Mar-21

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Mike/James, That 1988 article on OU is an oldie...from back when we only had 6 football Natty's. I fully expected that response/reply from homers like you two. Yes, go ahead and deflect the KU stain of embarrassment by supplanting info. about another team/program. Funny how your responses didn't deny the facts of the "other" 1988 KU team accomplishments that I listed. Your silence on that speaks volumes.

However, may I remind you that I didn't post a team picture in an attempt to reminisce about that teams perceived accomplishment specific to a given year. Everyone outside of KU agrees that they fraudulently won a "tainted" 1988 Natty as a direct result of multiple and egregious recruiting, academic fraud, player, coaching and overall program violations of preceding years (1986, 1987). I certainly wouldn't go out on a public forum puffing out my chest in proud adoration by sharing a team photo of what was quite frankly a stain on KU athletics. You might choose not to recognize it but others certainly do.

Just keep'in it real KU homers!

From: TwoDogs@work
31-Mar-21
I actually really enjoyed watching Oklahoma during the Tubbs era. They played a very entertaining brand of basketball. I know a lot people were rubbed the wrong way by Tubbs but, I found him to be fun in a lot of ways.

From: crestedbutte
31-Mar-21
Lee...I was in attendance at this 1989 game between OU & Mizzou. Mizzou coach "Stormin" Norm Stewart was beside himself during this game even though the calls were all going in Mizzou's favor. At that point, fans had had it with the officiating. However, at the request of the officials Tubbs made an announcement to the crowd and in essence had the last word on the matter.....and I quote "No matter how TERRIBLE the officiating is, please do not throw stuff on the court,"......and he got T'd right out of the building. Great memory!

From: ksq232
31-Mar-21
Lol crested, most people don't know and don't care, homer or not. I could care less about KU basketball in 1988, I was 12.

OU isn't just any team we blindly chose to "deflect", they are a football "powerhouse" and just so happen to be YOUR favorite team. OU football has sure racked up those national championships since then though! I believe they have one? Just so happens to equal the number of the KU basketball program.

One more thing, did you notice in the article I posted that the years of violations OU was punished for included 1985? Don't be a hypocrite, be sure to put an asterisk on that Natty too!

From: cherney12
31-Mar-21
Have to wonder if they woulda won in 2008 had it not been for that special Math teacher that helped out Darrell Arthur...

From: ksq232
31-Mar-21
Sorry cherney, your school can't enter national title discussions. But they do things the "right way" so you've got that!

From: cherney12
31-Mar-21
Only cheaters are allowed to discuss national titles? Sounds fitting for NCAA sports...

From: cherney12
31-Mar-21
Since you didn't go to KU you prolly shouldn't be allowed to discuss KU matters...

From: ksq232
31-Mar-21
Sounds good cherney!

From: sitO
31-Mar-21
I thought I was the prick around here dammit!

From: ksq232
31-Mar-21
Come on Kyle, you surely knew none of us have the market cornered on that!

From: crestedbutte
31-Mar-21
Thornton is holding on line #1, HA!

From: TwoDogs@work
01-Apr-21
Cheating in college athletics brings to mind the old saying "If you ain't cheat'n you ain't trying hard enough." I know that is said in jest, but unfortunately there is a lot of truth to it. It seems that college athletics is a dirty deal and some get caught, some don't and a few might even play by the rules.

From: cherney12
01-Apr-21
“The greatest thing my dad imparted was there’s no satisfaction in cheating and winning, I mean absolutely anyone can do that.” - Lon Kruger

From: crestedbutte
01-Apr-21
I understand Larry Brown and the rest of the KU coaching staff (including Danny Manning's dad...Hmmm?) got a lot of satisfaction in 1988 when they all received their contractual "performance" bonuses for reaching Final Four and "tainted" Natty.

From: ksq232
01-Apr-21
Give it a rest crest. Patrick and Kyle have a leg to stand on for now; you do not.

From: sitO
01-Apr-21
That hat can't even stand on it's own!

From: crestedbutte
01-Apr-21
What in the wild, wild world of sports is a goin’ on here! Crusty.....it’s a miracle!

From: crestedbutte
01-Apr-21
What in the wild, wild world of sports is a goin’ on here! Crusty.....it’s a miracle!

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01-Apr-21

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From: Catscratch
02-Apr-21
Anybody following the women? Some great games happening!

From: One Arrow
03-Apr-21
My buddy, a diehard basketball fan and a great player in his day, watches the women’s games as much as the men’s. He says they are just as amazing to watch.

Quick story - My wife was a Division I basketball player (UNO) in her day. When we were expecting our first she took me to Dave and Busters for my Birthday, she would have been 6 months pregnant and “showing” quite well. They have a basketball game there to see how many shots you can make in a minute... and you can compete against some else. I knew better after having my arse handed to me multiple times by her. Some guy was there beating a bunch of people, mainly high school kids, real arrogant SOB to boot. My wife stood in line, baby bump and all, and asked to play him. He kind of laughed, shrugged, and said sure. They played 2 games, a small crowd gathered after the first to watch my wife scorch him again.

I wish I could have ordered her the tallest “Black and Tan”... I stood about 10 feet tall. I believe she still has the single game 3 point record at the Community College she was recruited to after coming to America.

Personally, if I’m not involved in the action, I can’t stand to sit in front of a TV watching any game. Which is why I don’t comment much on these threads. I do enjoy sitting in the stands though.

From: sitO
03-Apr-21
I'd have loved to watch that go down Ray! The wife of one of my buddies in CO is a "giant", and I watched her whoop several men on the "punching bag machine" in a bar in Vegas...it was a hoot!

Watched the first game last night, they're so much more intense than most men's teams. I thought the SC girls got robbed on a couple of calls at the end but they certainly had a chance...or two...to win it!

From: One Arrow
03-Apr-21
Kyle, my sister in law is 6’ 5”... played professionally in Europe for several years. Has a European championship medal. I’d hate to piss her off.

You should have seen the line up at my wedding. All the bridesmaids were from Poland (all came to U.S. to play basketball). My wife was a shooting guard so she’s “only” 5’ 10”... we were both dwarfed. My oldest brother is 5’ 8” in shoes... to walk down the aisle we paired him with a 6’ 5” power forward! Ha! It didn’t bother him though as she was also a knock-out. Actually, you wouldn’t think so, but when it comes to those giant women in Poland they are danged attractive.

One was married to Darryl Thomas, played under Bobby Knight at Indiana. He died of a massive heart attack a couple years back, but he stayed at my house a few times, spoke to kids at the school I was principal at. I got to wear his championship ring... life of the party type of guy. Look him up if you haven’t heard of him... he was critical in the final seconds of the championship game.

From: One Arrow
03-Apr-21
DP

From: be still
03-Apr-21
Used to hate women’s basketball but the older I get I find myself enjoying it....doesn’t hurt that Baylor is usually pretty good. Hated to see them go down the other night and sure was hoping they were going to win it all like the men are about too.

Before the high school boys play I catch some of the girls games and Kyle is right...they get heated rather quickly. Funny too how they can have a UFC brawl on the court and refs won’t blow their whistle and right after in the boys game they’ll get a tech for just looking at a player the wrong way.

From: be still
03-Apr-21
Is it just me or has anyone else realized this point guard for UCLA looks just like a young Bob Marley. Even take away the dreads and he still reminds me a lot of him.

From: Catscratch
03-Apr-21
Hep, looks like Marley... and Huggins looked liked Roger Raglin in his last game.

From: be still
04-Apr-21
Ha yeah now that you said that I can see that as well.

From: crestedbutte
04-Apr-21
One Arrow....don’t have to look it up. If my memory serves me right he hit the game winner ( 3ptr ? ) from left side of the arc with little to no time left on the clock to win the Natty that year, correct? I remember watching that play live on TV. Sad to hear he recently passed away.

From: be still
04-Apr-21
Jason that didn’t sound right so I asked my brother cause back then he was a Hoosier fan...in fact we lived in Indiana for a year or 2 when I was a toddler. He said it was Keith Smart that hit the game winner from the corner.

From: Catscratch
04-Apr-21
One Arrow, my wife played college ball and the story of your wife rings true with her too. Watched many a confident guy who said no "girl" could beat them in basketball get their ass handed to them. She is quiet and doesn't talk trash, but once she's on the court it gets serious. Men usually assume she got lucky at first, then she repeats over and over (even after they step up their game). It's a blast to watch them get frustrated but unable to do anything about it.

She played against some Polish girls. I remember a couple of Polish sisters who were great players. Also spent a season with the Portland Fire (WNBA) as an Athletic Trainer. Got to know a lot of the pro's on personal level. Kind of fun to watch games on TV and know a handful of the players. That was a long time ago though, the one's we know have all retired.

From: crestedbutte
04-Apr-21
Be still...yes it was Smart indeed. I had the play right (remember watching it) just had the wrong guy. Thx!

From: One Arrow
04-Apr-21
Crested, Darryl assisted the shot. Bobby Knight gave a lot of credit for winning the game to Daryl for not taking the shot (he was having a great game) and dishing it back out to Smart instead.

From: be still
05-Apr-21
I think a lot of people had these 2 teams at the end on their bracket. Before the tournament I would have bet a lot of money they wouldn’t be playing each other here....I had Baylor here but not Gonzaga.

From: sitO
05-Apr-21

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I picked OSU to take it all, it was a stretch...but I won the KS Bowsite challenge!

From: writer
05-Apr-21
Finally got another one for the Big 12, and they had to beat 1, 2, and 3 seeds, too.

From: sitO
05-Apr-21
Baylor "Buzzsaw's"! They came out and throat-punched the zags, never let up.

From: ksq232
05-Apr-21
Fun watching sports media eat crow... If Baylor hadn’t had the layoff, they prolly wouldn’t have been beaten this year.

From: be still
06-Apr-21
I don’t know about that James....big 12 was tough this year. A few unlucky bounces off the rim this year kept several big 12 teams from advancing with the Cowboys claiming the number one spot.

Being born in Waco and living within 20 minutes of the stadium my whole life it makes me a huge Baylor fan. I was wanting to talk trash against Gonzaga but after tears flowed toward the end and again after hearing hearing from the Gonzaga Coach I can’t do it. Instead of making excuses he gave us credit. You got to admit after that emotional last second win they had before and the pressure of being undefeated they had a lot on the their shoulders. Still the Big 12 and Baylor deserves the credit this year....LETS GO.

From: smokin'arrow
06-Apr-21
I have stayed off of this thread on purpose, because I am a little biased on the team I choose to support. I had season tickets to OSU Cowboys BB, and I got to see every team in the Big 12 this year. As a guy that played college BB back in the day, and also knows the rules and follows the game, let me say without a doubt that Baylor was the best team I've seen in college this year. I don't talk trash on others because at any given time, a team can have a bad night shooting and lose. That being said, I got to see a young OSU team get better all season and yes, Cade is the real deal. He made others better because of his unselfish play, sometimes too unselfish. There are many very good players in the Big 12 and I hope that they all can recruit new players to replace the ones that will be leaving. Regardless, I will have tickets again next year and look forward to seeing some great ball. Watching games in person is nothing like seeing them on TV, that's what makes College sports so fun. Take care all

Chris

From: Catscratch
06-Apr-21
What a fun game to watch! March Madness did not disappoint this yr. Absolutely loved all the close games and upsets. I find it easy to root for the underdog and had a blast this tourny.

From: writer
06-Apr-21
Was a lot of entertaining games to watch.

Like most, I was deflated when the last shot went in for the UCLA game. But, had Baylor had to play, and beat, UCLA, it would have detracted from the title.

As is, thoroughly beating a 1, 2, 3 seeds makes a statement. Gonzaga never beat any over #5.

I have to eat a few of my words as per Scott Drew. He’s now part of the elite.

See KU hired a new AD. What is that guy thinking? Maybe he tends to follow the pattern of failing for a few years, then getting a nice buy out. A good friend was in the search committee and really likes the guy.

From: crestedbutte
06-Apr-21
Baylor beats big 12 0-18 Iowa State by 5 a few weeks ago, crushes #1 undefeated Zags by 16. Yeah the big 12 is no joke.

Didn’t see Timme flexing much last night. Maybe now, he will shave that ridiculous mustache!

BTW....ESPN already has Zags ranked as #1 team next year? Fools!

From: writer
08-Apr-21
Just realized that’s two consecutive tournaments the Big 12 had teams in the championship game. So Tech winning the 2019 championship.

From: writer
08-Apr-21
Just realized that’s two consecutive tournaments the Big 12 had teams in the championship game. So Tech playing in-the 2019 championship. (typo edited)

From: crestedbutte
08-Apr-21
Nope...Virginia Cavaliers were champs that year. They beat the Red Raiders in overtime.

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