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Predator Hunting 2021
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Contributors to this thread:
Kansan 14-Jan-21
keepemsharp 14-Jan-21
writer 14-Jan-21
Thornton 14-Jan-21
Jug 15-Jan-21
cherney12 15-Jan-21
Trebarker 15-Jan-21
Thornton 15-Jan-21
Thornton 15-Jan-21
Thornton 15-Jan-21
Thornton 15-Jan-21
Thornton 15-Jan-21
be still 16-Jan-21
Thornton 16-Jan-21
sitO 16-Jan-21
Kansan 16-Jan-21
Kansan 20-Jan-21
Bentstick54 20-Jan-21
Kansan 20-Jan-21
crestedbutte 20-Jan-21
t-roy 20-Jan-21
sitO 20-Jan-21
NCK 20-Jan-21
Bodyman 20-Jan-21
Thornton 20-Jan-21
be still 20-Jan-21
Kansan 21-Jan-21
Kansan 21-Jan-21
Kansan 21-Jan-21
Slate 21-Jan-21
Catscratch 21-Jan-21
Does 21-Jan-21
Thornton 21-Jan-21
Jug 21-Jan-21
Jug 21-Jan-21
Kansan 23-Jan-21
Bodyman 24-Jan-21
Dale06 24-Jan-21
writer 24-Jan-21
writer 24-Jan-21
Trebarker 24-Jan-21
writer 24-Jan-21
One Arrow 24-Jan-21
Thornton 24-Jan-21
Tejas 24-Jan-21
writer 24-Jan-21
Kansan 24-Jan-21
Kansan 24-Jan-21
crestedbutte 27-Jan-21
Dale06 28-Jan-21
keepemsharp 28-Jan-21
Dale06 28-Jan-21
Thornton 28-Jan-21
keepemsharp 29-Jan-21
Thornton 29-Jan-21
Dale06 29-Jan-21
Kansan 30-Jan-21
Catscratch 30-Jan-21
Thornton 30-Jan-21
writer 30-Jan-21
writer 30-Jan-21
crestedbutte 31-Jan-21
sitO 03-Feb-21
Catscratch 03-Feb-21
TwoDogs@work 04-Feb-21
t-roy 04-Feb-21
Kansan 04-Feb-21
sitO 04-Feb-21
be still 04-Feb-21
Tejas 04-Feb-21
Trebarker 05-Feb-21
Trebarker 05-Feb-21
Jug 05-Feb-21
Thornton 08-Feb-21
KsRancher 15-Feb-21
sitO 15-Feb-21
KsRancher 15-Feb-21
writer 15-Feb-21
writer 15-Feb-21
Catscratch 15-Feb-21
One Arrow 15-Feb-21
Thornton 17-Feb-21
Thornton 17-Feb-21
Thornton 17-Feb-21
TwoDogs@work 17-Feb-21
keepemsharp 17-Feb-21
TwoDogs@work 18-Feb-21
Kemosabe 20-Feb-21
KsRancher 20-Feb-21
sitO 20-Feb-21
t-roy 20-Feb-21
sitO 20-Feb-21
be still 20-Feb-21
be still 20-Feb-21
crestedbutte 20-Feb-21
Kemosabe 20-Feb-21
sitO 20-Feb-21
be still 21-Feb-21
One Arrow 21-Feb-21
From: Kansan
14-Jan-21
I’ve really gotten into calling predators over the last few years. I got my fur harvester certification last year , and it’s been a goal of mine to get a bobcat ever since. I’ve had a cheap Primos electronic caller for a while, but it wasn’t great, and I only had okay success with it. I just recently purchased a Lucky Duck Roughneck, and the fourth stand with it brought me this beautiful tom bobcat! I called him out of a gnarly draw with cottontail distress, and he came right to the call within the first 5 minutes. I took the first shot while he was at 80 yards. He was walking and I hit a little far forward, taking out his front shoulder. He took off running and the 2nd round of .243 rolled him up. It was an exciting hunt that I’ll never forget. He’s my first cat I’ve ever taken, so needless to say, I’m stoked! I’ll be doing quite a bit of predator hunting over the next few months, and will post pictures of anything else I take here. Best of luck to anyone else getting after ‘em. Feel free to throw in pictures of your own. Happy calling!

ETA: Bobcat photos in the post below!

From: keepemsharp
14-Jan-21
Great time, keep after it.

From: writer
14-Jan-21
Must have really been exciting when you saw the movement, then recognized what it was and that it was going to give you a shot.

From: Thornton
14-Jan-21

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I was hoping someone would start a thread. I've seen two bobcats this year and I've shot a couple coyotes.

From: Jug
15-Jan-21

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New poster but long time follower.

I've always wanted to call coyotes but never really got into it too much, so I am a newbie. Went out last Saturday and set up my FoxPro spitfire with a vibrating decoy. Started at 10:00 and within 5 minutes had 2 come in. Shot this guy at 40 yards! It was a total rush!

From: cherney12
15-Jan-21

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First time I've ever shot one from the ground with my bow. Came right at me at first light. 8 yard shot. Broadhead really did a number.

From: Trebarker
15-Jan-21
Keep after them Kyler, good luck to you. Good luck to all after coyotes, we need as many of them taken out as possible, they are thick in my area.

From: Thornton
15-Jan-21

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30 yards and he came in fast, only to stop facing us.I aimed at his neck but he was so close the bullet went under his chest and knicked a back leg on it's way out. He blasted off and my 2nd shot got him behind the shoulder.

From: Thornton
15-Jan-21

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I was up on the hill 507 yards away watching some does, then a bobcat. I couldn't resist when this guy came loping down out of a cedar thicket.

From: Thornton
15-Jan-21

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Missed this one with my longbow. Hit a twig and he didn't even run very far the bow is so quiet.

From: Thornton
15-Jan-21

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He stood behind me for a minute before trotting off, unaware an arrow had just went over his back.

From: Thornton
15-Jan-21

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I forgot to mention, that 507 yard coyote had a broken and atrophied rear leg. He seemed to be running around just fine though.

From: be still
16-Jan-21
Dang...what caliber of gun are you using for that kind of shot?

From: Thornton
16-Jan-21
It is a 6.5 Creedmoor. 10.3 moa of elevation for that shot. In all honesty, I was probably more lucky than not because I shot him off my knee because I couldn't see him over the grass while laying prone.

From: sitO
16-Jan-21
Where's that Bobcat Kyler?

From: Kansan
16-Jan-21
For some reason I’ve not been able to upload pictures. I’ll try again when I get WiFi in a few days. We weighed him at 30 pounds. Taking him to the taxidermist to get stuffed tomorrow.

From: Kansan
20-Jan-21
Finally got my pictures to post! My first bobcat, 30 pounds. He’s at the taxidermist now!

From: Bentstick54
20-Jan-21
Great looking cat. Love them with lots of spots.

From: Kansan
20-Jan-21
Brian, the guy I call with is an experienced trapper/caller, and said this cat had one of the better furs he’s ever seen. The photos don’t do him justice. Being a novice myself, I have a hard time telling a great cat, from an okay cat. But between the size, the fur, the excitement of that hunt, and being my first cat, he said I’d have a hard time ever getting a better one to get stuffed. So that’s the way I went! I’m lucky to have a few nice bucks on the wall, but this bobcat will certainly be the pinnacle of my “trophy room”. They’re the most mysterious, elusive, and fascinating critter in our state, IMO. I have an immense amount of respect for them, and couldn’t be prouder to have this one.

From: crestedbutte
20-Jan-21
Very cool. A beauty for sure!

From: t-roy
20-Jan-21
Congrats on a beautiful cat, Kyler! Calling cats in is definitely exciting.

From: sitO
20-Jan-21
Great coloring/spots on that one bud, for some reason now the pics are gone? Congrats and hope to see a pic once the mount is done.

From: NCK
20-Jan-21
Like Sito I do not see a picture. I have seen some VERY strange things on this site lately. On one thread on the Big game forum if I looked at a post by an individual with my computer I would see a picture of a deer and bear in the back of a truck. If I looked with my phone I would see a game picture of a small buck. THE SAME POST!!! Anyway I hope I get to see your cat soon.

From: Bodyman
20-Jan-21
Always loved bird hunting deer rabbits squirrels and about anything else I could eat but never understood killing just to kill. I always loved to watch coyotes and especially bobcats always thought they had more of a rite to be there than me it their home. I know I’ll get beat up for this , they have to be controlled and all that

From: Thornton
20-Jan-21
You've obviously never seen a coyote chewing on a live deer. I saw it in person years ago and it changed my opinion of them forever. There is absolutely nothing efficient on how they kill. They have zero knowledge of anatomy so they just grab the deer anywhere and start chewing. Kill them all

From: be still
20-Jan-21
Yeah Kyler I seen the pics before they disappeared and that is a beautiful cat. Used to call a lot when I was younger and have called in a lot of them but I never have gotten one that big.

From: Kansan
21-Jan-21

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From: Kansan
21-Jan-21
Sorry, tried to switch out one pic for a better one, (didn’t like my boot in the shot) and then screwed everything up! They should be up now. I appreciate the congratulations from everyone. It means a lot to me. A cat has long been on my “list”. Needless to say, I’m hooked on this predator hunting!

From: Kansan
21-Jan-21
Frank, I hunt predators to control their populations on my properties. Not just to kill them. However, this cat was certainly a trophy. At least in my eyes.

I will say, I had heard that bobcat is fantastic eating, so a buddy and I fried some “cat straps” the other night from a young one that he trapped. They were fantastic! It’s a very light meat, and the texture is nearly identical to pork.

From: Slate
21-Jan-21
Pretty cool Congrats

From: Catscratch
21-Jan-21
That is a beautiful cat! Congrats.

From: Does
21-Jan-21

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Saturday morning was good to me. 7:30 a.m. first one down 8:30 a.m. second one down

From: Thornton
21-Jan-21
Good shooting! That looks like a neat old farmhouse behind you

From: Jug
21-Jan-21
Sweet cat!

From: Jug
21-Jan-21
Sweet cat!

From: Kansan
23-Jan-21
Good shootin’ Eric!

From: Bodyman
24-Jan-21
Hey Jason it’s kinda hard for a yote to order in and I’m not downing anyone. Nature’s kinda cruel that’s just the way it is but not near as cruel as man That is a good lookin cat

From: Dale06
24-Jan-21
Kansan, nice T shirt. I went to KSU “many” years ago. Nice predator calling results, congrats.

From: writer
24-Jan-21
Interesting that in the early years of deer in Kansas, coyotes weren’t really seen as much of a predator, except maybe to newborn fawns. Maybe that was because we had so many more places with rodents and rabbits? They’re certainly adaptive animals . In the mid to late 90s a Drury crew got video of two coyotes ambushing a doe in a green soybean field. It was probably the first recorded incident so saw in Kansas.

One basically grabbed he by the nose as the other basically started ripping and eating either shock or loss of blood took the doe down.

From: writer
24-Jan-21
Interesting that in the early years of deer in Kansas, coyotes weren’t really seen as much of a predator, except maybe to newborn fawns. Maybe that was because we had so many more places with rodents and rabbits? They’re certainly adaptive animals . In the mid to late 90s a Drury crew got video of two coyotes ambushing a doe in a green soybean field. It was probably the first recorded incident so saw in Kansas.

One basically grabbed he by the nose as the other basically started ripping and eating either shock or loss of blood took the doe down.

From: Trebarker
24-Jan-21
We also had a bunch of folks that actively hunted the coyotes back then Mike. When dog boxes with greyhound heads sticking out of them on the back of beat up, broken windshield, frame bent trucks, were a very common sight.

From: writer
24-Jan-21
Still around some places. A good friend had an extremely good mule deer holed up after gun season. According to the trail cam, coyote wagon came through Christmas Eve afternoon, and was firing a pistol into the weedy draws. No permission. Buck hasn’t been seen since. Same guys got caught trespassing on the neighbors one Thanksgiving afternoon .

From: One Arrow
24-Jan-21
We’ve got 2 crews in my area. Never ask... NEVER. Ran dogs on my property during youth Turkey season.

From: Thornton
24-Jan-21
The ranch I hunt every year in NM seems to have a dwindling pronghorn buck population. The plague came through and killed off thousands of prairie dogs and now the coyotes are eating the only thing that's left: pronghorn.

From: Tejas
24-Jan-21
That sure is a great looking cat!

From: writer
24-Jan-21
Ray, so it’s always been, it seems.

“We can’t control where the coyote goes...”

From: Kansan
24-Jan-21
Dale and Shane, thank you!

From: Kansan
24-Jan-21
I still hunt coyotes with greyhounds all the time (in the winter) with a group of guys who have been doing it for decades. Yes, we have permission for everywhere we hunt. We usually catch several each weekend here in southeast Kansas. The guys went out near Goodland a couple of weeks ago and caught 38 coyotes over a long weekend.

From: crestedbutte
27-Jan-21

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This weekend’s contest near El Dorado. Interesting, even though night hunting is legal (for now anyway) this contest prohibits night hunting...huh?

From: Dale06
28-Jan-21
Might be difficult to enforce that “no night time hunting.”

From: keepemsharp
28-Jan-21
It's all hard to enforce, one of the reasons for the opposition for these hunts.

From: Dale06
28-Jan-21
I’ve participated in a couple calling contests, with a friend who is a fanatic coyote hunter. I like calling coyotes, but contests don’t do much for me. But some people really get in to them.

From: Thornton
28-Jan-21
They adapt well. I have one permission you cant hardly get within 700 yards of one, but my friend calls them into his yard in northern Harvey County. Had one this morning cross the road 1/4 mile from the end of my drive by the creek and watch me stop 15 yards away. He didnt seem scared, and I probably could have gotten him with my snub 38. revolver.

From: keepemsharp
29-Jan-21
Jason: so what's the point?

From: Thornton
29-Jan-21

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From: Dale06
29-Jan-21
Thornton, great pic of quail and a stone corner post.

From: Kansan
30-Jan-21
Very nice picture Thornton.

From: Catscratch
30-Jan-21
Nice looking side by side to gi with those quail.

From: Thornton
30-Jan-21
Thank you. I accidentally put it on the wrong thread but oh well. My lab had a heck of a trip. 8 pheasants and 2 coveys of quail in the shelter belts around the 20 acres that farm sits on out in Gove County.

From: writer
30-Jan-21
That’s a fun mix’ed bag hunt. Miss those with snow on the ground.

From: writer
30-Jan-21
That’s a fun mix’ed bag hunt. Miss those with snow on the ground.

From: crestedbutte
31-Jan-21

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This is contest from out west near Scott City. Pic of the flyer is from 2017. Not sure if they still hold it or not? Maybe someone from SC area knows?

From: sitO
03-Feb-21

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First time out for predators this morning.

Didn't even have an arrow knocked yet, and had two dogs coming up along the fence to the East. The second didn't come any further after the shot(at top just to the left of the cedar). I tried to slow down the shot with my free editing software, but that didn't work out so well...you can slow it down on YouTube, on your "player" if you want.

From: Catscratch
03-Feb-21
Nice shot Sit!

From: TwoDogs@work
04-Feb-21
Good job Kyle. Neat video

From: t-roy
04-Feb-21
Way cool, sitO! Those coyotes aren’t very loyal to each other. They always seem to bail on their buddys at the first sign of trouble.

What kind of video equipment are you using for video taping your hunts?

From: Kansan
04-Feb-21
Fantastic stuff Kyle!

From: sitO
04-Feb-21
Thanks fellas, using a Canon Vixia HF G20 for over the shoulder and usually a GoPro out front

From: be still
04-Feb-21
Yep very good shot...hitting him on the move like that. I need to practice more.

From: Tejas
04-Feb-21
Sweet shot Sit(as Fran would say)....lol Keep after them critters fellas....every coyote you kill is likely a fawn saved!

From: Trebarker
05-Feb-21
Excellent

From: Trebarker
05-Feb-21

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Behind my home, Bobcat feeding on my doe remains
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Behind my home, Bobcat feeding on my doe remains
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Coyote on the left is missing it's right eye
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Coyote on the left is missing it's right eye
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Coyote/ bobcat stand off
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Coyote/ bobcat stand off
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Skunk holding off the yotes
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Skunk holding off the yotes
Welcome to come call at my place and where I hunt Kyle, plenty of targets around

From: Jug
05-Feb-21
I would be going out more but I only have 1 .243 round left. Can't find ammo anywhere.

From: Thornton
08-Feb-21
Where you located Jug? Also, do you have a .22? I've shot several coyotes with a .22 out to about 150 yards with good results.

From: KsRancher
15-Feb-21

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Got 2 today. Came in together. Shot one, the other ran over to it. So I shot. Called in 4 more, BUT I somehow missed. And they were chip shots.

From: sitO
15-Feb-21
Nice Rusty! I went back out this evening and called a couple spots, no takers.

From: KsRancher
15-Feb-21

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Anyone have troubles with coons. I dont have an electronic caller, so I just use a mouth squealer. And I have been calling in coons like crazy. Dang near got attacked on Saturday. Like literally had to kick him when he got to me. This one was about 10ft when I talked to him and spooked him off this afternoon

From: writer
15-Feb-21
I’d rather shoot the coons...

From: writer
15-Feb-21
I’d rather shoot the coons...

From: Catscratch
15-Feb-21
Me too. The coons are a scourge as much as the yotes. If you can put the hammer down on them in this bitter weather do it!

From: One Arrow
15-Feb-21
I was looking for .243 ammo just the other day at our local sporting goods store. Zero. I asked when they thought they might get some in... “maybe December”.

If I go coyote hunting, it’ll be with a shotgun or .22. I’m not burning any other caliber at this point. This is getting stupid and the guys buying up all the ammo to sell online for profit should be pistol whipped.

From: Thornton
17-Feb-21
I've got enough bullets for this administration and maybe the next, but I'm saving what I have. Im going to miss my long range shoots at sunset when the wind lays this summer.

From: Thornton
17-Feb-21
It's getting ridiculous. The guy in the gun library at Cabelas said the new company that bought Remington ammo is reportedly going to charge high prices to reduce hoarding. Saw this offer on my feed this morning. I bought this same number of .22 bullets a few weeks ago for $30.

From: Thornton
17-Feb-21

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From: TwoDogs@work
17-Feb-21
I had way too many coyotes on my trail cameras this year. I planned on trying to reduce the population a little this month until I found out that there are almost no 30:06 shells to be found. I did find a box of 20 and a box of 10 at a little store last week. They are probably 20 years old but better than nothing. I will try with my 22 as it appears that getting rifle ammo may not be easy to do for the foreseeable future.

From: keepemsharp
17-Feb-21
Lee: if you need some o6 to thin out some yotes I can donate you some.

From: TwoDogs@work
18-Feb-21
Thanks Dave. I think I am ok at this time.

From: Kemosabe
20-Feb-21
I have tried to call coyotes a couple of times in this extreme cold weather. Each time I have called multiple sets. I called in only one coyote and one bobcat. I am calling land that holds coyotes and that typically can be called in with reasonable success. Any tips? Advice would be appreciated!

From: KsRancher
20-Feb-21
My experience (which is VERY limited) is that you can do 4 calling setups with nothing. Then on the 5th setup have 3 dogs come in. Thru this last snow my brother and I noticed something. After a calling setup and seeing nothing, when walking to setup again. When we got a few hundred yds from our previous spot, we would see fresh track coming and going. It's like they snuck in, seen us and left without us knowing. This happens a lot I think.

From: sitO
20-Feb-21
I've had days when I've called in coyotes at one end of a field and a Bobcat at the other(500yds away), and days with multiple yotes on multiple properties. More often, however, I've had days with no takers...it's hunting. Have been having better luck the last two years using "bird tracks" on the FoxPro, the "Nutty Nuthatch & Ranting Redbird" have been my go-to's lately by no means do they work every time.

Wind direction is obviously important, moreso with the yotes, and I like a day with at least 10mph of wind but not heavy gusts. I also run the caller for an hour straight at each spot, because I'm more interested in a cat coming than a yote...and they take their time in my experience.

From: t-roy
20-Feb-21
Do you start and stop your caller during that timeframe, sitO, or do you let it run on a continuous loop the entire time?

From: sitO
20-Feb-21
Continuous, but I do switch the sound/track sometimes for the last 15min or so, and I play with the volume some. I know it goes against a lot of what we've read/heard but I've had both yotes and cats come after 45min+

From: be still
20-Feb-21
Jonathan it’s been about 10 yrs or so since I quit calling but don’t feel like you’re doing something wrong. Coyotes get educated very fast. Sito is right in changing it up and the volume. I only used mouth calls and that helped me a lot in doing that. Some places I would only blow very little and wait in between sequences...got to change it up sometimes. And he’s right on wind...some people don’t take it seriously enough on calling coyotes. Just like deer you have to plan a enter and exit after calling depending on the wind.

Bobcats is a totally different animal...you bring them in with hunger but a lot of times it’s out of curiosity. If you’re strictly after cats don’t be afraid to walk another 100 yards or so and call again. Down here it helps if you get right on top of them before you call. Multiple times I have I called 30 to 45 minutes and even shooting a couple coyotes and get straight up and walk 100 yards or so close to a thick brushy creek and have a bobcat come out just in a few seconds after blowing the call. Sito is right again though that if you got a cat from afar coming in he’s going to hang up sometimes and it might even take a couple hours. I had cats growing up and studied them a lot...if you remember the curiosity side you’ll start bringing more in.

From: be still
20-Feb-21
And you probably already use mouth calls but on a place where coyotes are educated I wouldn’t bring out the electronic call. A call made by Barnum Brothers called “Mini Blaster” was my favorite. You could make a gruff raspy sound or you could take your teeth and bite down on the plastic tubing a little and make a high pitch whiny sound. Doing it all together sometimes you can make it sound like a animal is in really bad pain. You probably already know this too but pay attention to the sky in the distance cause crows and birds will tell you something is coming or hung up. Especially cats...sometimes a blue jay or other birds will let you know that you have a cat laid up close. Sometimes the birds stop their noise but that doesn’t mean the cat has left. Before you leave trying something different like a very soft but high pitched rat sound.

From: crestedbutte
20-Feb-21

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Love my Haydel GHC-Cottontail Rabbit call with mouse squeaker. The rabbit call end reaches out to any in the area, wakes them up and get’s them coming in. When they hang up at the typical 75-80 yds out, you just hit’em with the mouse squeaker end to get them to commit to coming on in. Long time a go, I had a yote poking its head in the grass looking for the mouse as he inched closer and closer. He made it a few feet from the end of my boots before I stopped him. The key with this call is to always end a sequence with the sound of the prey fading/weakening/waning. Love this call!

From: Kemosabe
20-Feb-21
Thank you for the help. The wind direction is something always paid attention to.. Some of the other suggestions will help me with trying something new to fool ‘em.

From: sitO
20-Feb-21
Most folks cain't blow a mouth call for 45min+...others have skills

From: be still
21-Feb-21
Lol you ain’t right.

From: One Arrow
21-Feb-21
Lol

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