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Well I recall over the years all the liberals on this site saying over and over how the Democrats will never come for guns. Well how about now? Unbelievable how sick in the head anyone must be to support any Democrat.
Not only do they want to take them. They want to March in your house at anytime and take them.
Remember it doesn't matter what hand puppet Joe does. Because at least he doesn't tweet mean things.
Rut heaven forbid someone’s giant feelings get hurt. Yes apparently most people would rather have a typical con man politician lie to them and make them feel good with their words then do the exact opposite in their actions. Than to have someone speak the truth and actually do what they say they would do. They’re definitely after the gun toting sportsman. From there who knows what will be next. I’d be willing to beg all the Libs we’ve heard on hear won’t have much to say now.
The real problem is all the liberal voting hunters who actually wanted and voted for this anti hunting agenda. It makes no sense, but I guess hunters are not the brightest group on earth.
No known liberal voters will ever be allowed on my lands to hunt, even family members. The dem loving hunters must go elsewhere to hunt and recreate. They are against my way of life, and I will not be a supporting part of their anti hunting agenda and hypocritical voting.
Where do you people get the idea dems are anti hunting? They are anti assault weapons I get that. But where in the convoluted conversation do you see them speaking out against hunting? What is missing here? Unless you are listening to the biggest con man in history?
In all seriousness Trickle tell me a anti hunting group that doesn’t support all democratic candidates. I honest don’t know of any. Is there a anti group that supports republicans?
I care more about the environment I hunt in than assault rifles. Republicans under Trump rolled back every environmental regulation they could find.
treegeek +1. Remember Trickle rut was very anti Walker and has been pro left since he joined this site. He is one of those who voted for the left and defends all they do. It starts with one weapon and next thing you know, there will be more taken away from us. This is the case where I totally agree with MO. How can any hunter vote for what is now the radical left socialist party?
"I care more about the environment I hunt in than assault rifles. Republicans under Trump rolled back every environmental regulation they could find."
I think you're lost.
This is the bowsite. You're probably looking for the backcountry hikers and anglers web page.
Happy & MO, spot on. What really irritates me is that people like trickle throw around the term “assault weapon” so carelessly. It is not and has never been defined. Allow the Democrats/liberals to define it and it will eventually encompass all of our firearms.
Wrong. I voted independent. A third party. Correct. I'm against Walker. The one time deer license buyer who put all the nuts in the Texas deer czar and removed science from DNR. Not to mention the unqualified secretary and the call in registration. How did the deer and hunting work out for ya' since the Texas deer feeder manufacturer put his godly hands on our deer managent statewide. Honestly...better or worse or damn shittier? Huh? True. The orange carnival barker cronic liar (set new standards for political lying) rolled back years YEARS! of environmental guardrails. False. They are called assault weapons cause they are for Military assault tactics. M-I-L-I-T-A-R+Y. NOT HUNTING GET IT? I also appreciate the PM I receive from some of you on my posts. I read them all thank you. I have yet to recieve any negative or treating or just plain dumb messages. Never was gonna post about myself but to clear the air from where I stand....I hold a masters degree in wildlife management from UW Stevens Point. A doctorate in Environmental Sciences from Michigan Tech and a graduate degree on Native American culture from the university of Rhode Island. I'm also old. Darn near 70. Lifelong hunting and outdoorsman. Sick to death of guys like Trump and his cronies pissing on people and they convince themselves it's raining. You can kiss his ring all you want but I'd prefer to drop trow and let him kiss my ass. God bless (Trump did not brainwash me) you all.
Maybe you should donate more to the NRA Mike. After all they are bankrupt have no political push anymore but their board and President thank you much while they live in their Mansions your donations bought them including the 29 million dollar HQ building you also paid for. How do you spell Suckers?
WoW an education is a terrible thing to waste.
Multiple wasted educations is a disaster.
going public is PRICELESS!!!!!
Wildlife Management, Environmental studies, Native American Studies, UW system, you will not find a more left indoctrination that you have experienced. Save your time all, save your time.
You may be right huntcell. I should be educated enough to take the off ramp on sites like this. People argue or throw spaghetti at the wall to see if it sticks. Never mind data. Or science. Or facts. Or studies. I like to believe I'm open minded. But when you sort out the chaff......I believe in God. Everyone else bring data. Salute'
Huntcell, lol!! That was funny, what made it funny was it being true. The language he/she uses (just wanna cover the bases) says more about them than anything. All this proves is wisdom does not necessarily come with age.
Trickle, explain a little of your spaghetti. Tell us your definition of a military rifle. Then, produce one the government uses. I will wait but I will not be holding my breath.
49 years ago. Diff time. Diff politics. Diff attitudes. Diff studies.
Military rifles. From what time period? Civil war? Indian wars? Spanish American war? War of 1812? American revolutionary war? WW1? WW2? Vietmam war? Korean conflict? War on terror? Iraq? Afganistan? Be more specific please Mike.
Time period? right now! The war on white supremacism. and their core majority members white males, that be all white males, minus homo males, democrat white males and any white females that self identify as males) IT'S WAR! just ask Nancy and the Demos hunkered down behind the wire and armed military.
1st commandment of Demo / Repub hierarchy Only for me not for thee! We are special clause: separate retirement, health care, armed protection, walled compounds, justice, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...
The conversation centers on current politics so I think you can safely assume I am referring to modern day.
To this point, none of those degrees have produced a rational, logical argument.
Geez huntcell. Not racist or bigot at all. My gosh I thought the 40's and 50's were over. No wonder you believe your draft dodging leader. I suppose you believe what he said Friday also "that the rioters at the capital were good people. They were kissing and hugging the capital police!" Lots of video to support that by golly. 132 injured and 1 dead from all those hugs and kisses!
Gotta love these “educated” actually indoctrinated individuals. Always talking about science. Wear a mask just follow the science. Until they want 59 different genders. Then there’s no science. How about the science of gun banning Democrat run cities like Chicago. All the more gun violence when banned. Where’s your science in that. These “indoctrinated” scholars are the problem. They think they know what’s best for everyone because they are the elite educated ones. Sick in the head really.
More science from the educated ones.
More science from the educated ones.
Tricklerut, ANY rifle could be deemed as an assault rifle if uses to do certain things. Just as any bow, knife, bat, automobile could be. Assault rifle is a moniker used by the left to scare the sheep.
Some of my best gunshows were in CA. 5 Deep at every table & non stop action all weekend . San Fran . , Santa Clara & even LA . Then the 1st "Massacre "happened . 1984 Mc Donald's. Over the next few years we lost Hi Cap Magazines, certain firearms & other stuff .
A few years later we " the right " gained control & got our stuff back . This cycle has been a roller coaster ride for 35 years . We never worried about permantly losing anything . Just temporarily.
But now times are changing , we are being out numbered & the Left is taking control . WE better find a way to regain some control with the 2022 Elections or we may never recover .
Its so sad that Trump fell apart in his last 7 months in office . Even some of the Trump Kool-aid drinkers admit that he damaged the Republican party .
We did gain control of the Supreme Court , but we better do well in 2022 or we are screwed .
Mike. The current squad/brigade weapon standard issue is the M4/M4A1 fully automatic carbine. Also interchangeable barrel for shotgun and rocket grenade applications. There are 2 company's in competition for new standard issue rifles. As of today no decision has been made to implement either design. In the testing and prototype stage. The Brass are looking for faster rate of fire and reduced weight.
Well rut asssault with a deadly weapon is assault with a deadly weapon. Regardless of weapon. Could be a can opener for that matter. But we are talking firearms here. But I get your point
Reading here is exactly why I hate politics. Its makes people angry, it divideds us, and this is the primary tactic of the elite, who play the system, and do things far worse than draft dodge.
I do appreciate real statistics. Not ones that are washed and reused for the benefits of an agenda. Much like the democrats run with on guns.
What scares me the most are not guns but a group who control our change, who will rig our elections, who control the media, who brain wash with lies, erase history, and so on.
Kudos Ruger! Well said. A rational well thought out response. Yes the kool aid did get bitter. Too bitter to drink. I don't want any of our 2nd amendment rights put in jeopardy either. But picking sides one way or the other isn't how the sausage should be made. Nor is jumping to conclusions on what will happen to our firearm rights. But these mass shootings of 7 in 7 weeks is the problem. Those cats doing it are our problem. That's who is redpondsible not left or right or middle. Wow the moon is special tonight. If you haven't looked go take a peek!
Hey trickle I read through the responses and didn’t see anything about a anti hunting group that endorses republicans. Were you able to come up with one?
I have not looked for any tree. But there is some anti commercial fishing and I assume anti hunting groups in deep red states that are not liberal. Probably not conservative either. If I can find any found info on that in the near future I'll pass it along, but not conjecture or heresay. I'll see what I can dig up. Maybe, maybe not the retired Sierra club president can point me the right way. I'll report back if or if not I find anything reputable
The real problem in this country is a mental health problem. Our elected officials are a reflection of our society. Nuff said...
Retro, you are spot on! Mental Health is our number one issue and we have no idea nor the resources to deal with it or figure it out. Can not lock them in asylums, can;t force people to take meds, just running as part of a free society.
Another inconvenient fact is FBI statistics show only 364 out of over 10k murders were committed with rifles. Not even just assault rifles but rifles. More people were killed with knives than ARs. Where’s your science in banning ARs. I still fail to understand how anyone can support the left agenda. Especially when they say they are educated. What does that really tell us about them?
Bartman the facts are this. No mass school or theater or concert or....were committed with knives or baseball bats or name the weapon. I don't know where you get the 364 out of 10,000 murders were commited with firearms. I looked at FBI statistics, and a few other law enforcent stats and nowhere can I find any information to collaborate that statistic. Nowhere. I did find this on the national registry of violent crimes on homicide causation. Poison 7%. Blunt force trauma 13%. Strangulation or asphyxiation 4%. Firearms 71%.The remaing percentile is a combination of sharp instrument, vehicular manslaughter (owi), push or shove etc. What tree did you pick those stats off? So in final 7 out of 10 violent crime murder and/or death from complications due to firearm wounds are directly attributed to firearm crime. Data Mr. Bartman. Cold hard facts.
I agree Retro!
Ruger said, "Its so sad that Trump fell apart in his last 7 months in office . Even some of the Trump Kool-aid drinkers admit that he damaged the Republican party." I disagree a little, he fell apart the last 3 years on office. I would say his first year was an A, down hill from there. We need to get Trump out of the Republican discussion and move on. Hopefully Trump takes Ron Johnson with him as well. What a embarrassment to our state!
Getting back to the topic of the thread, did anyone looked into the details of the supreme court case?
"What's True In the U.S. Supreme Court case of Caniglia v Strom, the Acting Solicitor General's Office argued that the court should declare it constitutional for police to enter a home and seize property, without a warrant, "when a serious threat to lives or health justifies immediate intervention," in certain circumstances.
What's False The government did not argue for a blanket, indiscriminate authorization for police to enter homes and seize property in any set of circumstances, as some news headlines suggested." Snopes.com BC
Trickle, in your first post on this thread, you tell us “dems are anti assault rifles. Yet to this point, you are unable to offer a definition of an assault rifle. Your opinion is your opinion, you own it. You also own the lack of facts in your opinion.
Mike a rose is a rose by any name. You can cut out the word "assault" and pencil in any word that suits you. But again a rose is a rose.....
PS. Those stats are firearms. Nowhere can I find a distinction for seperate categories Rifle/Handgun. Not saying there isn't seperate stats on that I just can't locate them if they exist.
Suicides are also in those stats. Again though trickle you keep side steeping Mikes question. Define an assault weapon? Is it any gun that looks scary? According to many my Remington Model 742 bdl 308 semi-auto is an assault weapon. I bought this in 1976 and have four clips for it. I could shoot it pretty fast.
Military style assault weapons. Not deer or big game rifles. As in AR-15, Kalashnikov's. Weapons designed for Military use not sporting use. Also. Suicide, self defense, accidental discharge are not included in the stats I saw. The stats I put forward are violent crime stats/firearm
“Can not lock them in asylums, can;t force people to take meds, “
Actually they can abiet for a short time. It’s called Chapter 51 hold in reference to some state code.
Also they can force electro-shock treatment. Strap to table and turn the dial. Know some one who has been on the receiving end of all of the above.
Lobotomy is the only thing they absolutely can’t do these days.
So if it eases your fluxation let's disregard the word "assault" and slide in Military if that pleases you or takes the focus off Sporting arms then.
Bartman's Link
There you go. Mass shootings. AR-15 to head of class. Over and over and over again like a bad dream.
Trickle said, "removed science from DNR"
And an AR-15 differs from a Remington 742 how? It differs from a BAR how? I can go on and on but you should be able to figure it out.
This is simply about our 2nd Amendment rights. Once one weapon is pulled, the floor will drop out. The radical left democratic socialistic party would celebrate one win and keep on going for more.
Trickle, given your degree in Indian culture (not sure what one does with a degree like that and I never knew there was a degree in that and so glad I chose computer engineering, but I digress) , I now get why you are pro-spearing. I do give you kudos for sticking to your guns (pun intended) in this thread. I know there are loads of other Sleepy Joe and the Hoe voters out there who are afraid to back you up.
Bottom line - leftists like trickle don't care about your rights, they don't even care about mass shootings.
Leftist are only interested in power and the 2nd amendment stands in their way.
The "sportsmen" here who voted for biden should be ashamed.
The push for universal background checks is the first step.
Without a nationwide gun registry (which we currently do not have) universal background s won't work.
The nation wide registry will inevitably lead to gun confiscation.
And if you scoff and don't think it could happen. Did you ever think major cities could be burned for months on end and no one prosecuted for those crimes.
Lots of good stuff . HAPPY brings up an important point . They keep attacking " assault " type guns because the really do make alot of people nervous & once the Left gets those , any Semi autos are no longer safe .
I have several AR'S but my home self defense piece is an Ithica Roadblocker . A 10 gage 7 shot autoloader shotgun . A life long buddy & highly decorated Recon Marine looked over my roadblocker & said , " Man I wish I had this in my fox hole .
The point is once they get 1 they won't stop .
" Now that we have confiscated all the guns , the country is a safer place " HITLER 1938
The point being is missed is that the 2nd Amendment was so important to the founding fathers it is second behind freedom of speech, and intended to allow the people to fight against a tyrannical government and leader. Limit what we can fight the government with and their is no fight. Many, many people out here think we are on the verge of needing to do that. Not being one but know many. It is not about hunting, or mass shootings, it is about our right given by the founding fathers to be armed to fight against the government. Some one failed teaching Civics and History as it was written not interpreted today.
huntnfish43's Link
Beto O'Rourke 09/12/2019 - "Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47,"
So what happens when they want your Remington 870, Mossberg 500, Smith & Wesson 686, or your Colt Python.
In the most recent shooting in CO the perpetrator passed a Universal Background check as CO has a law requiring it for both retail and private sales? The perpetrator also waited 6-days from that purchase before carrying out his carnage. So "Tickle Me This" what gun laws are they proposing that would have stopped this?
HF43
Happy I did not say Indian culture. I said native american culture. That means from the southern tip of South America all the way to north of Bearing straights. North pole actually. American as in south and north. The south and north american continent. What did I do with it? Assisted in Archeology. Assisted in genome research. Wrote a thesis. Lobbied a bakers dozen countries for medical research and implementing health protocol for native tribes. Helped and encouraged vaccine for all children against the common diseases we are all familiar with and about another 30 things I won't bore you with. That's what one does with a degree of that type of degree. Did I get rich? Nope. Did I make a difference? I'd like to think so. It was very fulfilling and fun except for the Malaria down south and the liver worm flukes up north. Nasty things. If you ever get the chance to eat Beluga Whale liver? Don't!!!
Trickle it sounds like you have lived a fulfilling life but the one thing you're missing is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Thats the American foundation. Well what was. Nothing wrong with law abiding citizens exercising their amended rights.
Chicago was a great explanation up above. Shows what restrictions on guns do. Why on earth that is difficult for you so called educated people to grasp is beyond me.. The only people that suffer are the law obiding. They are the ones who are restricted.
I'm missing life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness nocturnal? Geez I didn't know that! I better get my liberty and happiness on! You know I love me my liberty. You surmise that from my posting? Anyway. God bless (I'm gonna get my liberty going) you Nocturnal.
Practically every firearm used for hunting was at one time a "Military Firearm". The AR15 and AR10 platforms make excellent hunting firearms. So basically every firearm is threatened by be confiscated with "Military Firearm" as a definition. Now one difference I see in today's world is "fully automatic" which isn't allowed for any hunting that I'm aware of. There are already laws on the books being broken by the crimes in question. So it is ridiculous to think that any more gun laws will prevent someone intent on doing harm with a firearm from being able to do said harm.
You know what I meant. It's a right we all have. Whatever makes us happy is our God given right. Just as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. God bless you Trickle
No offense taken. Your a valued contributor here nocturnal. Enjoy this warm day. Days like this I wish I had a kite! God bless you too.
I have no kite and no definition of assault rifle yet. Guess I am flying blindly! ;)
Lol Mike. If you read what I just posted on the Vietnam thread you will see I can do both! Fly and blindly! You just made my day.
Did not read it and I said “I am flying blindly.” And, you carelessly used the term assault rifle so I am still waiting for your definition and for to tell us the difference between an AR and a semi-auto hunting rifle. How many more times will you respond without addressing your carelessness?
Trickle, when did you attend MTU. I'm just wondering if you were there the same time I was.
By the way, a lot of hunters use AR style rifles for hunting, and more are using them every year.
I was at from 74 thru 77 Keith. I believe. I took one semester off I can't remember if that was 75 or 76
Mike again. Call them what you want assault. Military. Automatic. Grease gun. Your just being a dick move now
Keith any firearm can be used for hunting. From .22 cal. Up thru a German MG 42. The point is that is not what they were designed for. They were designed for Military application.
So any weapon used by the military is that what you are saying? I ask because no definition has been given or exists that I can find?
No screwball. The Winchester model 70 caliber .308 was designed for sales to sportsman for big game hunting sales. It was incorporated by the Military for Sniper use for quite a few years. It was their go to sniper rifle. Right off the shelf. You can research that
My AK47 identifies as a pop gun so in lib world it does not count as an AR.
I do not need to research that. I ask again as it was not answered. Which military weapons are you saying we should have access to? Let me make clear that I have never had a crime, no charges, other than a speeding ticket. Why should I having done nothing wrong have my freedoms taken from me? Why should I not be allowed to have the ability to fight against a tyrannical government?
You wanna get in a shootout with the Gov good luck with that. You should be allowed to own any and all legal firearms. In any quantity you can afford to purchase legally. Is...illegal to purchase a firearm with a silencer. Illegal in most states to purchase or possess a switchblade knife.
So trickle any legal firearms? So how do you feel about illegal aliens? That’s OK in libland I suppose.
It’s really very simple. We who carry guns don’t push our views on others. We have legal right to have those rights preserved. Those who hate guns think they should be outlawed for everyone. That’s the difference between Tyranny and freedom. It’s a distinguishing characteristic between conservative and liberal beliefs. So I guess you have to ask yourself are you a freedom lover or a Tyrant?
"Mike again. Call them what you want assault. Military. Automatic. Grease gun. Your just being a dick move now" LOL! So, you have no answer when called out for your ignorance so I am a dick. Sorry Trickle, like all libs, you first attempt to deflect, when that does not work, the next step is to call names. I suppose I'll be a racist next? All that aside, you ignorantly used a term that you have no definition for. And, are you sure it is illegal to sell a firearm with a silencer? I should let you try and weasel your way out of that one too but, being a kind hearted racist dick, I'm going to help you out. It is NOT illegal to do so, but, there are other laws and licensing involved. Keep showing us your ignorance, it is good entertainment.
"Is...illegal to purchase a firearm with a silencer"
No it is not. You just have to have the proper paperwork/permits. Both seller and buyer.
“Its not who votes , its who counts the votes” Joseph Stalin Joseph Biden
It's who counts the votes. Americans counted the votes. Democrats and republicans both. So how did they steal it? Where's your proof? There is no proof except for a chronic liar saying it happened. Man up and accept it.
Grub, pull your head from the sand.
So Grub by man up and accept it do you mean do like you did with the Russian collusion and failed impeachment and all the other false accusations?
C'mon grub. They recounted the votes in Georgia three times! Alas they found 2 dead people voted! RIGGED! Not to mention the 62 lawsuits filed to contest the outcome all tossed some by Trump judges. I wonder why the fraud was only in states the con man lost? All the states he won were squeekey clean. I get quite a few personal messages here that are positive. They don't want to post publicly cause of the typical school yard bullies like Mike and Bartman react like their savior con man. I respect everybody's opinions, but no sense arguing with a rock. I've seen their type for years. I'd hope a few more moderate voices would chime in but the bullies keep them from it. Good post. They got their ass kicked last November and rather than accept they deflect. And some racism and white supremacy mixed in their cocktails also....or Kool- Aid. God bless (they will pull their pants up) you all
Trickle says- God bless (they will pull their pants up) you all.
Speaks what kind of man you are. 70 years old and still childish combative behavior.
Men. Not childish. Acronym from the early days of our revolutionary war. Called all patriots to awake pull your pants (britches then) up and join us. It was a popular way of expressing unity back then. David McCulloughs book John Adams he touches on that quite a bit. That evolved into " pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and was used by WW2 officers a lot in the phrase " let's move or we will get caught with our pants around our ankles". Not 70 yet. I thought I was suppose to get my liberty on nocturnal? Guess when I do you don't like it. Sigh
Sure. No skin off my back..
Bless your heart trickle. Grub too.. We all know you both need it.
Nocturnal. Who is we all? That instigates your talking for, or representing a plural body. It's either we? or I correct?
Trickle, you continue to attempt to sound educated but in reality you only continue to avoid the subject. What was that definition again???
None of you Libs have answered one single question. Typical liberal rhetoric no solutions no answers. Just a bunch of lame Stream media rhetoric typical. All I have to say is you guys have a lot in common with your president.
Tickle since you won't answer the Capt's questions mine might be easier.
Why does all of this carnage happen in locations controlled by Liberal Progressive Democrat's?
Can you cite what a type of gun control that would eliminated the latest incident in Colorado?
HF43
I answered 3 times Mike. Maybe 4. You don't wanna hear it. Tell you what. I don't know what county your in but call the Fort McCoy adtugent and simply ask what if any firearms do they consider or refer to as assault weapons in Military or Civilian settings, actions, or even slang. I don't think the answer you get will appease you. If you like I can do the same. That way it can't be labeled "fake news", " liberal tactics", or any monikers from the last 4 years. I know Military personnel don't assault a position with squirt guns, cap guns or slingshots. I think they use full auto or semi auto carbines when they "assault" a target which I identified to you the standard weapon issued two days ago! Ask them.
Careful HF 43 if you ask him a difficult question and by difficult I mean one they can’t answer he’ll deflect and label you a racist or a bully. It’s all they know.
A better question is why did the shootings all of a sudden start after Biden is in office? How convenient for them and the agenda. Keep in mind these people support a man that has signed over 50 executive orders sitting behind a barb wired fence with thousands of troops at guard. Tyrant much?
How do they defend the book banning, the censorship and cancel culture? Nazi much?
He sits behind barb wire and guards cause if the anarchists come back he just doesn't want himself or the capital police to have to put up with all that kissing and hugging again. Especially with covid-19. My god what's worse than getting hurt or killed with all those lips and bear hugs! I think I'd rather get beat with a flag pole or sprayed with bear spray wouldn't you? Yuk...what a way to go with all those slobbery kisses!
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Trickle are you too mad at Dr Suess and Me Potato Head? Did they hurt your giant feelings?
Trickle again you are deflecting: "YOU" define please, not someone else. Or according to : Wikipedia: Differing state law definitions — Drawing from federal and state law definitions, the term assault weapon refers primarily to semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns that are able to accept detachable magazines and possess one or more other features. Some jurisdictions define revolving cylinder shotguns as assault weapons. So almost every firearm I own is an "Assault Style Weapon" . Remnington 742 BDL 308 Glock 40 Mossberg 835 12 gauge Smith and Wesson 22 double action Sig Sauer 45 ETC., Etc., Etc. According to this definition every gun I own except my Black Powder?
Or perhaps Merriam Websters which is simple: Definition of assault weapon : any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms
And don’t let them try and fool you trying to act like they are compassionate. We all know they’re exactly the opposite. Because if they were compassionate they would be trying to preserve rights rather than take them away like a tyrant. The most compassionate thing you can do for somebody is give them freedom. Control is all they want to do. Your guns your Health care what size drink you can have the list goes on and on don’t ever let them make you believe they are compassionate because they are exactly the opposite.
And don’t let them try and fool you trying to act like they are compassionate. We all know they’re exactly the opposite. Because if they were compassionate they would be trying to preserve rights rather than take them away like a tyrant. The most compassionate thing you can do for somebody is give them freedom. Control is all they want to do. Your guns your Health care what size drink you can have the list goes on and on don’t ever let them make you believe they are compassionate because they are exactly the opposite.
Trickle was foolish enough to get himself into this position which he cannot defend. He becomes a bigger fool as he continues to talk while evading any common sense or factual dialogue. There is definitely a pattern here with respect to liberal opinions and how their owners try and portray those opinions.
His first statement on the topic was, "Where do you people get the idea dems are anti hunting? They are anti assault weapons I get that. But where in the convoluted conversation do you see them speaking out against hunting? What is missing here? Unless you are listening to the biggest con man in history?" Since making that comment, he has continually deflected. Trickle, please explain to all of us how dems are not against hunting when they want our most common firearms taken from us. Are they just pro-bowhunting?
CaptMike That is a question i ponder with all the left thinkers on this site. I know most of them that speak regularly but they a quiet now. Probably because they'd chew their own foot, just as trickle has.
Noc, this issue has been debated forever, not just here but throughout the country and all through the media. The only thing that has come from it is that there are some people whose agenda includes stripping our 2nd Amendment right. They cannot logically, factually or in any other way defend that position. I am truly amazed at hunters who side with this train of thought. Do they honestly believe that only certain firearms will be taken away? Since before 1546, the idiom, "give an inch and they take a mile" (in one form or another) has been around. It did not sprout from thin air but rather from repeated experiences people have had with others. What kind of convoluted thinking do these people possess?
Silencers are not only legal, the red tape and cost to own one is a prime example of government control based on fiction. Reality is that silencers are embraced in Europe for hunting and shoot sports in order to preserve the hearing of the participants. There is no logical reason for them to be as regulated as they are. They should be commonplace in our shooting sports here in the US as well.
Tickle
California has universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, firearm registration requirements, a ten-day waiting period on gun purchases, a red flag law, a limit in the number of guns a law-abiding citizen can buy in a given month, a ban on campus carry for self-defense, a ban on K-12 teachers being armed for classroom defense, and controls on the sale of ammunition, yet they saw a significant increase in firearm related murders in 2020. Given you are an advocate of firearms bans, what additional controls or measures could CA put in place, or is this all Trumps fault?
HF43
Will he respond? Been out for a while.
I think he finally lifted his pants. Or however he describes it.
Pretty tough to argue facts although feelings over facts is the way they see things. Let’s not forget Chicago complete gun ban and more shootings than Afghanistan.
Bartman, the liberal supporters attitude most definitely is a result of an emotional thought process.
I think Trickle is 'Googling'....he ran out of useless liberal talking points.
Took an Ecology 101 class corespondent from River Falls UW back 31 yrs ago, the number 1 threat or major problem to our ecology in the book stated that it was from uncontrolled immigration/refugees, highly believe that book was canceled by the higher academia.
Did they cancel that book the same time the higher ups canceled Dr Seuss?