Mathews Inc.
Controlled hunts…
Oklahoma
Contributors to this thread:
EmbryOklahoma 15-Jun-22
Quailhunter 15-Jun-22
Canepole 15-Jun-22
Ok...Russ 15-Jun-22
MQ1 15-Jun-22
PushCoArcher 15-Jun-22
BigOk 15-Jun-22
abow4me 15-Jun-22
Quailhunter 15-Jun-22
EmbryOklahoma 16-Jun-22
hawg 16-Jun-22
Ok...Russ 17-Jun-22
EmbryOklahoma 17-Jun-22
Ok...Russ 20-Jun-22
EmbryOklahoma 21-Jun-22
SoDakSooner 18-Aug-22
21ss 21-Oct-22
EmbryOklahoma 07-Dec-22
PushCoArcher 07-Dec-22
hawg 08-Dec-22
Ok...Russ 08-Dec-22
Cord 08-Dec-22
Cord 08-Dec-22
PushCoArcher 08-Dec-22
TMac 08-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 08-Dec-22
Cord 08-Dec-22
Heat 08-Dec-22
t-roy 08-Dec-22
BigOk 08-Dec-22
Quailhunter 09-Dec-22
SoDakSooner 09-Dec-22
Ok...Russ 09-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 09-Dec-22
Cord 09-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 09-Dec-22
t-roy 09-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 09-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 09-Dec-22
ND String Puller 10-Dec-22
Nick Muche 10-Dec-22
BULELK1 10-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 10-Dec-22
ND String Puller 10-Dec-22
sitO 10-Dec-22
JohnMC 10-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 10-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 10-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 10-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 10-Dec-22
Quailhunter 10-Dec-22
WV Mountaineer 11-Dec-22
Ok...Russ 12-Dec-22
Ok...Russ 12-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 12-Dec-22
tobywon 13-Dec-22
goelk 13-Dec-22
brettpsu 13-Dec-22
EmbryOklahoma 13-Dec-22
15-Jun-22
After many attempts, I drew one of the coveted Bull tags. I’ll be hunting for a bull elk at the Wichita mountains around 12/6. My wife drew a cow tag too. Just not sure what weekend.

For the record, I had 25 points and my wife had 15. Hard to believe I’ll have a gun in my hand again. How do those work?

Edit: we also drew turkey tags at Cross Timbers WMA next spring. My wife drew 11/29 cow elk tag. Crazy!

From: Quailhunter
15-Jun-22
Way to go Rick!

From: Canepole
15-Jun-22
That's great Rick. Sounds like an extra freezer might be in y'alls future.

I got lucky and drew Hominy Oct 21-23. It'll be my 4th time there.

From: Ok...Russ
15-Jun-22
Congrats to you and your wife Rick. Be sure and get a good buddy with a strong back!

From: MQ1
15-Jun-22
Zero for me.

Wife pulled a elk tag.

From: PushCoArcher
15-Jun-22
Dang Rick better grab a Powerball ticket on the way home. My nephew drew the Washita nwr doe hunt and my partner drew Beaver river wma rifle hunt. Nothing for me. Congratulations to all who drew!

From: BigOk
15-Jun-22
Congrats Rick!!

From: abow4me
15-Jun-22
Wow, Awesome! Two elks tags! What are the odds of that? Congrats Rick

From: Quailhunter
15-Jun-22
I’ve struck out since 2016…. I’m expecting lots of pics! Rick….everyone follows your November bow hunts. Our expectations are high. Just throwing that out there now so you can prepare!

16-Jun-22

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Odds were pretty low for the bull tag for sure. Of course this was last years odds. Odds for cows are much better. Still, the likelihood of both of us drawing were out there.

From: hawg
16-Jun-22
I'm a little jealous Rick. I've got 27 points and still missed out (Not getting any younger).

I am going back to MCAAP in November on my doe kill last year so it ain't all bad. Good luck on a big bull.

From: Ok...Russ
17-Jun-22
Rick, at least next year you won't have to be cussing the screen for another 'unsuccessful' email! I guess you and Lana are now out of the elk controlled hunts. I wanted to put in for cow elk but honestly want an Oklahoma bull to put next to my CO bull. Same for my wife. Can't wait to see your adventure online!

17-Jun-22
Thanks, Russ! I’ll gladly bow out with my opportunity at an Oklahoma bull. It’s pretty darn amazing. Then, Lana’s cow tag is just icing on the cake. I’m very grateful and I’m sure we’ll share plenty of our bounty with our friends and family. That’s really my ultimate goal with this. The antlers will be a bonus.

From: Ok...Russ
20-Jun-22
Rick, y'all process your own deer/elk? Been almost 3 years since my last elk but it made some outstanding summer sausage, jerky and snack sticks!

Cool that you'll be able to hunt for Lana's cow then back in another week for your bull.

I had to start looking and ruining my afternoon! https://www.wideopenspaces.com/14-year-old-harvests-new-oklahoma-record-elk/ 377 3/4" rifle typical https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editorial/Oklahoma-bowhunter-sets-nontypical-elk-state-record/358764 344 7/8" archery non typical

21-Jun-22
We don’t process our own. I have a fella down near where we hunt that does all of my deer. Pigs, I can do them for the meat I get from them. Elk, that’s another beast. But, I’ll likely process the back strap myself. We will likely have a processor near us do the elk. Might just take the quarters to my deer processor, we will see. I believe deer gun season runs during that time frame as well, so that will be a factor also. I just hate taking deer when the masses take theirs in... because sometimes I wonder if we are getting parts of other peoples deer.

From: SoDakSooner
18-Aug-22
Late to the party but congrats! Sitting on 24 for elk and we have been skunked out of McAlester for like 7 years after drawing 6 of 8 in a row. Will be in CO chasing them in less than a month!

From: 21ss
21-Oct-22
What part of the state I'm up in ne corner have all the maps if your close enough you would like to look them over to get an idea got good places me and friends have had good luck in yrs past text me at 918)530-2112 I don't get on here to much

07-Dec-22

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Was able to take this bull at 300 yards and down in seconds. My wife was not successful on her cow hunt. A lot of the units are bull heavy and she was in one. In fact, none of the 7 cow hunters in her area were successful.

I’ve gained a lot of intel on this place and can help anyone in the future. Just let me know if I can help.

With rains moving in the second day, I knew it would squelch opportunities, so I chose to shoot the first decent branch antlered bull I saw. Pack out wasn’t bad at 1/2 mile in too. Two trips and we were done. Lots of elk meat to get us through to next year.

Glad I was able to get drawn on this hunt and I’m extremely grateful to the state for putting on this hunt. Also, success rates are way down. I heard this first hand from the Fish and wildlife employees and the wardens down there.

Great experience, keep putting in if you haven’t drawn. ;)

From: PushCoArcher
07-Dec-22
That's great Rick congratulations on your bull! My father in law had the cow tag a few years ago had a shot at 3 bulls before he got his cow. One elks still a lot of great meat.

From: hawg
08-Dec-22
Congratulations Rick! I'll be getting with you for some of that "intel" next year when I draw that tag :) I'll have 28 entries so it should happen...right?

From: Ok...Russ
08-Dec-22
Congrats again Rick! That bull looks in pretty good shape - curious to see how much meat you get back from the butcher. Did he have much fat on him yet?

FYI - orange is NOT your color although the flatbrim is cool! :)

From: Cord
08-Dec-22
Good job Rick!!

From: Cord
08-Dec-22

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I waited 28 years to draw my Oklahoma elk tag...and hunted a total of 54 minutes. Like Rick, I hadn't picked up a rifle in a long time, almost 20 years. I actually had to borrow a 7 Mag from a good friend of mine.

I drew area I and saw several bulls and a few cows before taking the 283 yard shot on my bull. I drew the week before Rick's hunt and was told that antler quality was down a little from years past. Great experience and a fun hunt. The guys and gals that help with the hunt, and the area leaders that drive the hunters in and out of the field were super helpful and do a great job. My packing helper got hung up at the airport so the first 4 trips out were on my own! It is rough country in most places.

I also gained quite a bit of knowledge about the area that I drew so please don't hesitate to pm me and we will talk. DO NOT FAIL TO PUT IN FOR THIS HUNT! It will be the cheapest elk hunt you will ever go on and you will enjoy it!

From: PushCoArcher
08-Dec-22
Congratulations on a beautiful bull Cord!

From: TMac
08-Dec-22
Well done Rick you’ll be eatin good for a while.

08-Dec-22
I got to meet Cord down there when my wife was hunting, and I’m sure glad I did. I can tell you now, we will be life long friends. Congratulations, Cord, I’m proud of you man!

From: Cord
08-Dec-22
Thanks buddy, and like everyone else on the Oklahoma forum...we knew you'd get it done!

From: Heat
08-Dec-22
Way to go guys!

From: t-roy
08-Dec-22
Congrats, Rick and Cord! Now, I kinda wish that I would have kept up with putting in for the elk draws after I moved back to Iowa. (I’ve got my lifetime license) I’d probably have 25-30 points by now! Bummer that Lana didn’t get an opportunity at a cow.

From: BigOk
08-Dec-22
Congrats to Rick and Cord!!

From: Quailhunter
09-Dec-22
Congrats guys! I’m at 26 or 27 points and counting.

From: SoDakSooner
09-Dec-22
Nice job Fellas! Maybe someday!

From: Ok...Russ
09-Dec-22
Rick and/or Cord, couple of questions if you don't mind. On the ODWC screen shot posted by Rick, do you know if the number of applicants includes everyone's number of chances or just number of individuals? Ex: hunt code 1020 shows 10,095 applicants. But, if every applicant has 10 points, are you really drawing again 100,950?

Does the ODWC web page explain the difference in the hunt codes you guys drew vs the 'walk in only' ones which have a slightly better odds? Is the walk in only going to be a much more strenuous hunt or more so just a harder pack out?

Thanks!!

09-Dec-22
Russ… as far as the codes go, it does list walk-in vs controlled hunt. It is my understanding that the walk in hunts only hunt the special use areas which is walk in from the gates, north of the highway that runs east/west. It’s a LONG haul to get into the good hunting from there. Most of the good bull units were in the northern tiers. If you killed an animal on the walk-in hunts, you would likely be doing a lot of work to get into them and get them out.

On the controlled hunts, they drive you into the areas that you are assigned. Then you hunt from there. Where I was dropped off it was an easy enough hike to get into the elk. The controlled hunt also opens up areas south of the highway that is “public use” area. They shut them off and put up signs at entry points. They also held more cow elk, in my opinion. Most cow hunters in the northern tier units were coming back saying they only saw bulls.

I’m not sure how the numbers work as far as odds go. I do know this, your odds are increasing every year at a better clip, because many folks that had/have multiple points, have opted for a cow tag or the walk in hunts.

Cord and myself talked last night and agreed the average age was around 60. Many were much older, in their 70’s. I had 3 guys in my group of 10 that were over 65 and possibly in their 70’s. Personally, I’d keep putting in for a bull tag and the “controlled hunt” until my health or mobility was decreased. Glad I wasn’t in my 60’s or 70’s when I drew. That being said, we did see multiple folks in their 70’s getting it done.

I’ll be curious to what the total numbers of bull/cows were when the results come out. The cow hunters were having a tough time if they weren’t mobile.

From: Cord
09-Dec-22
Russ,

Rick pretty much covered it all. I had a buddy that drew the first walk-in hunt this year and hunted the same area that I ended up hunting. He was having to walk close to 4 miles just to get to the area that he hunted. From where I was dropped off, I got to the same general area by walking less than 1 mile. One cool thing about the walk-in hunt is that your helper can actually accompany you on the hunt. The draw odds are slightly better on the walk-in hunt but the distance traveled would definitely make it a harder hunt imo. I'm sure there are bulls killed much closer but like Rick said, most of the better areas seem to be on the far northern and northwest parts of the hunt area.

I'm almost 50 and was close to, if not the youngest in my group of 10 hunters. I had 2 ladies in my group that had cow tags. One was 73 and one was 75. 4 of the hunters in my group had applied for well over 20 years but put in for a cow tag this year and drew their first time.

A buddy sent me these stats. Not sure how accurate but interesting.

The herd is estimated to be around 1300. No telling how many are on the surrounding private lands.

Up to 30,000 entries each year. 408 tags issued this year. 110 bull tags and 298 cow tags.

70-80% success rate on bulls, 50-60% on cows. Approximately 250 elk will be harvested in any given year.

I will also be curious of the final stats for this year's hunt. Keep Applying!!

09-Dec-22

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A little story on my hunt…

When I got the notice that my credit card had been hit back in the spring, this was all I could think about. After 26 years of applying, I was going to hunt bull elk at the Wichita Mountains!

Well, I might’ve fibbed a bit… I had a wreck, jacked up shoulder, rotator cuff surgery, lost my job, and my injury attorney passed away two weeks ago. Anyhow… tough times creates tough people. Moving on…

Myself being a bowhunter exclusively, I started thinking of what gun I would use. I don’t have many to choose from and I knew that my .223 or .243 wasn’t going to be large enough, so the search began. Then, I remembered my step-father had a 7mm that he used years ago when hunting for elk in Colorado and whitetails here at home. I had actually shot it when I was a 120 lb 12 year and it was more than I wanted to shoot. I think that might’ve been the point where I was more interested in bows and arrows. Heck, I don’t know. :)

I called him up and asked him to use it, and he ended up giving it to me. Saying… “it’s yours now son, I’ll never use it again”. We both were welled up with tears. Why? Because my step-father is failing in health and doesn’t have a lot of time left on this ball. He knows it, I know it. It is life.

This summer, I got the gun cleaned up real good and put a lot of rounds through it. Satisfied with the grouping, and knowing it would do the job if given the opportunity.

My GOAL was to kill an elk with his gun before he goes from this life. I was focused, and a decent legal bull, would suffice.

Monday the 5th of December was orientation and I was put in area “E”. I had done some mapping intel and also through talking with others that were there the week before, on Lana’s cow hunt. I had a game plan and was ready for the morning of the 6th.

My plan was to get to the North end of E and hunt into the wind, find high points, and glass… and move. Early that morning there was a dense fog and it was hard to see past 100 yards. Around 8:30-9am the fog finally lifted and I knew I needed to be in areas to find the elk moving/feeding…

As I was making my way up to find higher ground, I ran smack into a bull and we saw each other about the same time at 75 yards. No dice. I kept moving to get across to a south facing slope and glass. The north wind was hitting me in the face and I figured the elk were going to be out of the wind, mid mountain, and in the bowls out of the wind.

As I approached the canyon, I glassed two small bulls, a 2x2 and 3x3, across the canyon. Along with a lone cow just ahead of them.

Again, my goal was to kill an elk with my stepfathers gun and bring home elk meat. The antlers were a bonus if it happened.

As I moved around to get lower and not get spotted, I noticed a few more elk to the west of me. I threw up the binos and noticed a branch antlered bull that I would be satisfied with. I moved quickly using the oak brush to keep me hidden along the north facing slope.

I got to level elevation with the bull as he started to work up the mountain. I found an old stump and leveled the rifle, and got the bull in my sights. I clicked off the safety and tried to zero in, but my crosshairs were all over him, not good. I then scrambled to find a better rest. Looking just ahead of me, I saw a flat rock about 10 yards ahead and laid down to the prone position. This was it!

As the bull paralleled the opposite mountain, I found him again and when he stopped, the crosshairs were on him. This felt solid. I took one short breath and the bullet was on its way.

At impact, the bull jumped about 5 steps with his opposing leg up. He was facing me and I didn’t want to take a follow up shot head on. Fortunately, I wasn’t forced to as he fell right there and tumbled down the mountain about 40 yards or so, piling up in a group of rocks. The hunt was over at 10:20 in the morning on the first day!

Bird in the hand as I said to others. Especially with the rain moving in on the second day, you just don’t know what’s in store. The pack out was about 1/2 mile and plenty of rocks to navigate. All in all, a pretty easy pack out. We were out with all the meat and head by 4:15 pm and my legs were done! (Aaron’s too) :)

Going in to this 2-1/2 day hunt, my expectations were throttled and my ultimate goal was to take an elk before my step-fathers time and to bring home delicious elk meat. I did both and I’m extremely grateful for the opportunity!

I’d like to say thanks to my buddy, Aaron Johnson, for the help getting him off of the mountain, which took all of two trips. Im very appreciative!

To anyone else that might have concerns about this hunt in the future, PM me and I’d be glad to help you out with what I know. I was also there last week and gained lots of valuable info.

Sadly, I’ll never fill out controlled elk hunts at the Wichita Mountains again. But, that’s okay. :)

By the way… I called my step-father the evening of, and he was sure excited!

From: t-roy
09-Dec-22
Nice story, Rick.

09-Dec-22

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09-Dec-22

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Fucking bowsite pics
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10-Dec-22
Well done! Congrats RIck! And Cord! Hey Rick, just curious is that a Remington 7400 auto?

From: Nick Muche
10-Dec-22
Congrats Rick, and Cord! Pretty cool!

From: BULELK1
10-Dec-22
Dang nice Bulls

Congrats,

Robb

10-Dec-22
Kelly… it’s a Browning BAR 7mm. It actually says on the barrel… “Use Remington 7mm ammo”.

10-Dec-22
Ok thanks it looked familiar, most of my relatives shot either the Remington Auto or Pump action. Could really send the lead doing deer drives. LOL

From: sitO
10-Dec-22
Pretty cool buddy, congrats again, enjoy the fruits!

From: JohnMC
10-Dec-22
Rick cool story. Neat to hear about elk hunts in my home state. Congrats on a fine looking bull.

10-Dec-22

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More pics… it’s a beautiful place in SW Oklahoma. If you get the chance to visit, you should! Elk, bison and BIG whitetails!

This was my friends bull he killed the week prior. He works for ODWC. Good dude!

10-Dec-22

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Try this again… I’m usually pretty good with pics. What happened to the rotation editor? Stupid!

10-Dec-22

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Found a boiling/simmering pan… :)

10-Dec-22

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From: Quailhunter
10-Dec-22
Thank you for sharing, Rick. Looks like a fantastic trip.

11-Dec-22
Congrats to both hunters! Great stuff.

From: Ok...Russ
12-Dec-22
Rick and Cord, thank you for taking the time to answer questions and to post up some pics of the hunt. Well done by both of you!

Rick, I see you've got the ivories. Don't know how much time your father in law has left but maybe use one of the ivories for him a ring or something? Just a thought. You could give it to him along with a nice elk steak dinner.

From: Ok...Russ
12-Dec-22
This ring isn't too expensive. https://rockymountainivory.com/products/smooth-ring-hoof-print

12-Dec-22
Russ… I’ve surely thought of that. Although, he doesn’t wear much jewelry. I think I’ll get Lana a pair of earrings or a necklace made with them.

Thank you guys for checking out the story. Much appreciated!

From: tobywon
13-Dec-22
Congrats Rick and Cord, thanks for sharing. Rick, I'm glad you got to honor your step father while you can both share in the success of the hunt. I'm sure that gun will be cherished for the rest of your life. Again, congrats on a fine bull and more importantly, the memories you've made.

From: goelk
13-Dec-22
Rick congrats. Awesome adventures and memories and blessings for your step father.

From: brettpsu
13-Dec-22
Great job guys! Huge congrats and excellent story Rick

13-Dec-22
Thanks fellas! It’s been a week now and I want to go hunt them again, with a bow. :)

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