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Ace 30-Jul-22
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From: Ace
30-Jul-22
Errr SHOT sorry for the typo.

DNA Test Confirms Another Wolf Killed in New York

ALBANY, N.Y.— A recent DNA analysis of an 85-pound canid shot by a hunter in central New York in December shows that the animal was a gray wolf. According to the Maine Wolf Coalition, at least 10 other wolves have been killed south of the St. Lawrence River, once thought to be too great a barrier for wolves to cross.

New York’s proximity to Canada, where wolves have long been documented, and large swaths of suitable habitat and prey make it likely that the species will continue to venture back into the state. Yet the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation has long denied the presence of wolves.

“The science, including DNA evidence and a growing number of dead wolves, tells us that wolves are present in the Northeast, despite continued government denials,” said John Glowa, president and cofounder of the Maine Wolf Coalition. “It is past time for state and federal agencies to get their collective heads out of the sand by doing the research and by giving wolves in the Northeast the protection they are legally entitled.”

The wolf killed in December was shot by a hunter who posted photos of the animal on social media. At the time wolves had had their Endangered Species Act protection removed; they have since been protected again after a successful lawsuit by wildlife advocates.

The hunter agreed to provide the Northeast Ecological Recovery Society tissue samples of the animal for DNA analysis, which was completed at Trent University. The test confirmed the animal was a wolf, with Great Lakes, Northwest Territories and eastern gray wolf DNA. The complex nature and purity of the wolf DNA may be consistent with a wild wolf that dispersed from Canada, where various wolf populations are known to intermingle.

“Many of my friends and neighbors in the Adirondacks where I live have spotted wolves there and I myself have seen canid tracks there much larger than that of a coyote,” said Joseph Butera, president and cofounder of Northeast Ecological Recovery Society. “How many more wolves have been killed or will be killed in New York State and the northeast if the NYSDEC claims that all of these large wolves are coywolves — hybrids that are predominantly coyotes — because they won’t acknowledge the DNA confirmation that we have wolves here?”

It has been wrongly believed for some time that the St. Lawrence River and surrounding areas serve as a barrier to wolf dispersal. But this animal is the latest of at least 11 wolves known to have been killed south of the river since 1993. These include wolves killed in New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine, New Brunswick and Quebec.

The Maine Wolf Coalition documented the first live eastern wolf in Maine through scat collected in 2019. There are tens of thousands of square miles of potential wolf habitat in the Northeast, much of it in New York, which makes the Northeast ideal for wolf recovery. Wolves live just 60 miles north of the New York border, a distance a wolf can travel in under two days[AK1] .

“These results clearly show that wolves are making their way back into the Northeast, lands this magnificent species once called home,” said Amaroq Weiss, senior wolf advocate at the Center for Biological Diversity. “While it’s heartbreaking this wolf was killed, we’re grateful the hunter agreed to provide a tissue sample for DNA analysis. Now it’s time for state and federal leaders to step up and help these endangered and protected wolves return to the Northeast.”

Background

Although gray wolves were exterminated from New York more than a century ago, there is abundant habitat for wolf recovery throughout the state. Wolves have been returning to other areas of the United States from Canada for decades.

The Center for Biological Diversity is a national, nonprofit conservation organization with more than 1.7 million members and online activists dedicated to the protection of endangered species and wild places.

The Maine Wolf Coalition is a 501c3 nonprofit corporation dedicated to supporting wolf recovery in Maine through research, education and protection.

Northeast Ecological Recovery Society is dedicated to the restoration and protection of native species in the Northeast.

From: Ace
30-Jul-22

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From: Pat Lefemine
31-Jul-22
Well that’s just great - sigh.

My prediction: DEC will prioritize their protection and Manage them so they flourish and establish mature, healthy packs all across North Central NY where they will decimate what’s left of the pathetic deer herd.

Imagine a pack of wolves inside a deep winter deer yard on the Tug Hill? Good lord.

But no worries, DEC will still give everyone two buck tags and a 6 week rifle season even after all the deer are gone.

01-Aug-22
Lesson here( And I am pretty sure it has already happened) if you do shoot one......shhhhhhh !!!!

From: spike78
02-Aug-22
So the government denies it even though quite a few were shot. Now we know they will never admit the existence of any mountain lions as well.

From: jdbbowhunter
02-Aug-22
Shoot everyone you see. You can't be charged with illegal killing if they don't exist here.

From: Squash
02-Aug-22

From: Shawn
02-Aug-22
Coyotes kill enough adult deer, can you imagine what an established wolf pack in just one area would do. Shoot, shovel, shut up!! Shawn

From: Pat Lefemine
04-Aug-22
Anyone got a pic?

From: Squash
06-Aug-22

From: Ace
22-Aug-22
http://mainewolfcoalition.org/wolves-in-the-northeast/december-2001-day-new-york/

From: spike78
29-Aug-22
Ace their are no wolves in NY the biologists have all agreed that wolves can not swim a river lol. Here in MA the biologists have claimed if they stocked Timber rattlers in Quabbin on an island they assure the public they will not swim across the water lol. Yeah you can’t make this up!

From: spike78
29-Aug-22
Ace their are no wolves in NY the biologists have all agreed that wolves can not swim a river lol. Here in MA the biologists have claimed if they stocked Timber rattlers in Quabbin on an island they assure the public they will not swim across the water lol. Yeah you can’t make this up!

From: ultimag
01-Nov-22
wolves have been in NY for 30 + yrs so haven't mountain lions no surprises here my brother killed a, wolf in Clinton county NY 20 yrs ago while out chasing geese

From: Pat Lefemine
01-Nov-22
Prediction: If wolves get a foothold in NY’s northern zone. DEC will be unwilling to manage them, their population will grow exponentially, and it will decimate what’s left of the pathetic deer herd.

Eventually the wolves will expand their range into the southern zone and create problems for farmers and rural areas.

All the while DEC will be celebrating and patting themselves on the back for the successful restoration of the majestic wolf back into New York.

Anyone dispute this prediction?

01-Nov-22
Pat, cannot disagree but if a breeding population of wolves are established the deer herd alone will not feed them. When they start taking domestic and agricultural animals the shtf and all bets are off.

From: ultimag
02-Nov-22
once they get a, foot hold it will be impossible to keep their numbers in check lived in Montana for 30 yrs I've witnessed what they do I've killed several while in Montana they are not easy to hunt

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