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Carving a Decoy
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From: be still
11-Oct-22

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Last year there was 2 deer that I could have possibly got a shot at if I would have been using a Decoy. Especially after observing the actions of one last year from the tree. I keep thinking to myself if only I had one that day set out.

So I have decided to make one myself…or let’s say try anyway. I borrowed one last year when I took my boy up there during Thanksgiving and we tried it one time. The thing was heavy, clumsy, and loud to carry in and set up. This one should be light and quiet.

Earlier I bought a one inch foam board and I’m cutting out the deer’s shape now. When I get through with that I’m going to spray foam both sides to make the desired thickness and then starting carving everything out. It’s going to be 3D and after I paint it I hope it looks pretty real. Let’s do it.

From: sitO
11-Oct-22
You might wanna put a layer of plywood or other behind it buddy, wind's gonna play havoc on that dude

From: be still
11-Oct-22
I actually thought about cutting this shape out of plywood and spray foaming both sides of that but I didn’t want it getting too heavy. When I was in Home Depot earlier though getting this I thought about the wind and how I wouldn’t be able to use it on windy days.

Hate to carve it all out though and wouldn’t be able to use it with even 10 to 15 mph wind. Adding 1/4 plywood to one side I guess wouldn’t add too much weight though. It’s a good idea…you don’t think it adds flat weight where wind can get to it more though? Just thinking out loud here.

From: Catscratch
11-Oct-22
Looks like a pro drew it! Not sure I would use a flat shovel to cut it out, but to each their own.

11-Oct-22
Maybe cut a 2nd one out of the leftover foam, and sandwich a piece of 1/8” or 1/4” plywood in between. Would save some on spray foam and the pink foam would be more durable than the spray foam?

From: be still
11-Oct-22

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I got 2 pieces of rebar about a foot long earlier at Home Depot. Got to thinking about what Kyle said here though so I’m going to go back and exchange them for some about 3 to 4 ft long. Going to run them along 2 legs and go all the way up close to the top of the back. On the same side I might add more pieces of rebar over the body, up the neck, and maybe a few on the head to give it a little more weight.

Don’t look to close at it…no it doesn’t have a fat butt. That’s part of the tail and when I go to foam it I got add a thicker brisket right underneath the neck. He ain’t got much there right now.

From: Kansan
11-Oct-22
I like it! :)

From: be still
11-Oct-22
That’s a very good idea Brian. As you can tell I haven’t put too much thought into this but just the other day I thought I would try and get one built before I go up there again.

From: Catscratch
11-Oct-22
I use a screen printed cardboard decoy a lot. Works great but wind can play hell with it. The best thing I've found is to stake it well with stakes that run through the legs up to the back. The hardest part is pushing the stakes deep enough into the hard/dry/frozen ground to keep it secure. And to do that without making a huge scene. You might go in steps. See if you can stake down your cutout. If that don't work add a frame. If that doesn't work add more. I really like it simple while decoying.

From: be still
11-Oct-22
Thank you Kyler… hope it turns out alright. I know what you mean Cat but I want it to look real. When I bring it back home I’m hoping she’ll let me put it in the house to look at it.

Originally it was supposed to be sprayed out of the spray foam insulation I put in some houses now. I think that stuff would be better and the guy said he would spray a big blob of it on both sides but I don’t know for sure what day he could do it. If he calls and says he can do it the next day or 2 I still might go that route. Thinking that stuff would be easier to carve and also be more durable.

From: sitO
11-Oct-22
I think Jason's on the right track. There are many silhouette decoy manufacturers. Most seem to be a fabric of some kind, until you get to waterfowl. But they're all like sails in the wind, and is doesn't have to be particularly strong wind...they move, unnaturally.

You need it to be more rigid in my opinion, maybe some of the corrugated plastic for a backing? I have an old Proghorn decoy made by the Renzo company. It did not perform well out west, but with your added layer it will be stronger. If you can make a base, or two, that isn't too heavy, the frozen/hard ground won't be as much of a challenge(see DSD buck stand).

What's your plan for headgear?

From: be still
11-Oct-22
It’s going to have real horns. The one I borrowed last year had holes where each horn slipped in. Might do that or set the horns in place and spray foam around them. The more I think about I hope that guy calls tomorrow. That foam is tough stuff…especially the closed cell stuff.

To help the swaying I might put rebar on all 4 legs and maybe spread the legs out a tad further. Deer stand sometimes with a outward bend of their legs anyway so that would look natural. What I have now the legs on the other side will be cut away once it’s foamed. There’s going to be a separation between them.

The base I think I have figured out and I’m pretty sure it’s going to work like a charm. Y’all will have to wait till the end to see that part.

From: be still
15-Oct-22

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Alright change of plans. After what Kyle and Jason said about the sturdiness I thought I better give this some more thought. So here’s what I came up with. Going in the morning to grab some chicken wire.

Going to take Brian’s idea on filling a lot of the inside with some of the cut pink foam. Going to wire it to the pipe and then wrap and shape it with the chicken wire before I foam it.

I’m going to foam to the top of the 45s on top of the head but leave it on open where I can slide the horns in. Spread the legs out a little bit so its even more sturdy.

Going to slide rebar up the legs. Together we’ll get this decoy built. Thinking I got to get a coupling and shorten the neck a little bit.

From: One Arrow
15-Oct-22
I think I would have caved and bought one at this point… lol!

Can’t wait to see the final product… this is getting interesting

15-Oct-22
I think I would shorten another part besides his neck LOL. Other bucks might be intimidated.

From: be still
15-Oct-22
Ray I don’t like spending money but in the end this one will probably cost me more…not even counting the time.

Lol Brian I haven’t glued that part yet but life is too SHORT to pass up the things that can give you a chuckle.

From: Catscratch
15-Oct-22
Lol, who knows you may stumble upon the best trick to decoying a dominant buck...

From: Kansan
16-Oct-22
Quite the pecker on that one.

From: t-roy
16-Oct-22
Might come in handy for carrying into the field…..

From: Bwhnt
16-Oct-22
"Quite the pecker on that one...." lmao!!!

From: be still
16-Oct-22

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Troy I didn’t think of that. Before I go taking or cutting it off I better think about it first. Who knows Cat might be on to something. Bucks might get really pissed and be like…oh hell no we got to take this one out.

Like Brian suggested…filling it with the pink foam now. Going to saw these horns off of the skull right above the eye sockets. About to do that now. If the horns don’t fit down in the pipe right I might run to the store and get bigger pipe for just that part.

16-Oct-22
Make sure you sweep up your mess or Erica might have something to say. Then you’ll wish you had just bought one!

From: be still
16-Oct-22

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Brian I know that’s right. I got quite the mess in the living room right now but our coffee table made a perfect work bench for this.

Well it’s wrapped in chicken wire and after maybe few more little shaping around the head and nose to make sure I got the room and dimensions right I’m about to start foaming. We’re about to find out if this is going to work.

From: Catscratch
16-Oct-22
Mount a little motor in the ass to get some tail movement. That should make it about perfect.

From: sitO
16-Oct-22
You're an artist, and my money says this thing looks real when you're done. It's a cool project.

I like the tilt on the head, make sure the ears are laid back.

From: ksq232
16-Oct-22
Very cool!

From: t-roy
16-Oct-22
I was thinking the same thing on the head tilt, sitO. Coming along nicely!

From: sitO
16-Oct-22

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By the way, don't use this "form" for the neck

From: Thornton
16-Oct-22
Seeing your art before,I know this will end up a realistic decoy, but we've seen how you made it. I think if you christen it "Trojan Horse", it would be appropriate ..

From: be still
17-Oct-22

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Aw come on Kyle that’s the best looking mount in the whole house.

Thornton it’s looking like a sheep right now. Ran out of foam last night so I ran to the store this morning to grab a couple more cans. Underneath I got some left to do and as you can see here I got some spots to fill out before I start carving. If I don’t have enough here for the ears I might form a shape out of wire to stick behind his head and foam around that.

Took it in here again and I’m about to do all the measuring on it to see what spots I need to add on too. If you look on the side of the neck head area you’ll see a spot that’s pretty smooth…that area was starting to droop on me so I took a piece of wet cardboard and raked it up.

If I would have had someone helping me it’s possible I could have done the whole thing like that and it would have cut out all the bubbles. But I’ve never done this before so you live and learn. I like how the foam has harden though and it should turn out pretty good.

From: Catscratch
18-Oct-22
Oh my goodness. I don't know what to say bestill.

From: sitO
18-Oct-22
How bout "baaaaahhh"

From: Slate
18-Oct-22
That is funny

From: be still
18-Oct-22
Yeah I’m thinking it would be a whole lot easier just to make this into a bighorn:?)

18-Oct-22
I’m curious to know what you estimate the weight is going to come in at? Any guesses?

From: be still
18-Oct-22
I’m guessing how it stands now around 10 lbs. I’m going to carve some of that off but the rebar on the legs will add some back.

Right now if you take one hand and lift up in the center between the legs it’s just a little heavier up front so I’m thinking about going with 1/2 or 5/8 rebar on the back legs and sliding 3/8 rebar up the front legs. Should be about perfect then. With the base it’s going to have I really just need to have one rebar on one of the back legs and one on the front.

Now Cat I think it was you that I told kind of how this base was going to be…don’t let that secret out just yet. Don’t want to embarrass myself if it doesn’t work out right.

From: sitO
18-Oct-22
Good to be light weight, need something you can toss over your shoulder(s) for the walk in. I use cheap metal skewers from Walmart to stake mine down. There are little tabs with holes in the feet of the Boss Buck. I carry the skewers upside down in my rubber boot walking in, and then just pin it down if windy.

From: be still
18-Oct-22

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Kyle I keep that idea in mind if this other one doesn’t work.

Earlier I started carving on the head some. I’ll add a lot of detail towards the end. Don’t pay attention to the ears yet…I stuck a piece of wire in the back of the head but the foam still drooped on me. Got to put more foam there and more between the base of the horn and above the eye. Simply didn’t have enough there to carve the eyelid. You’ll see a spot on top of the nose that needs some as well. Going to go ahead and carve out the whole body first though so when I go to refoam I can do it all at once. I might foam the little holes or I might putty or caulk some of them depending on weight.

Not going to show the whole body again until I get it fixed. Somehow the neck grew longer and now this freaking thing looks like a Llama. We can’t have all that so tomorrow after work I got to cut into it and take a section out of the neck and glue the pipe together again. Man that irritates me but it’s got to be done.

Trying to get this done and painted before I go back up there. Also Builders always think it’s hilarious to wait till middle of October and then tell me about a bunch of Septics they want me to put in at the last minute…I don’t find that a least bit funny.

From: Catscratch
19-Oct-22
I'd say you have the face right. Already looks like he's ready for a fight, just add some ears pinned back towards his neck and he'll look like he's ready for any and all challengers.

Lol about the builders. I likely won't get a single pronghorn hunt this year due to work piling on. Plan on getting it all done by Feb though for when the snakes start to wake up!

From: Catscratch
19-Oct-22

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Pics just to keep ya interested. Decoying is a blast! Love to see one come in stiff legged, bristled up, and with ears pinned back. Have shot most of my biggest bucks with a decoy. They don't always come in like that, sometimes they just make a scrape or something. Either way they aren't watching you and tend to stick around for a while.

From: sitO
19-Oct-22

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I'm here to pick up my hand carved deke, just drove by McLane stadium and had to stop at...

From: be still
19-Oct-22
You need to give me some notice when you’re headed this way so you can stop by. I’m assuming this is the one in Temple…if so when you’re headed back north feel free to stop by and visit. I’m setting 2 tanks today so it will be later this evening before I get back.

From: t-roy
19-Oct-22
I hear you as well, be still! I always get contractors that wait till November to pressure test their watermain projects, then want me to show up ASAP, when they can’t get it to pass pressure test. I usually tell them that they’re SOL until the end of the month.

Does your foam seem to set up and stop expanding fairly quickly? Reason I ask is, I sprayfoamed a base for a double whitetail pedestal mount, and added habitat to the base within a few days of spraying the foam. Turned out nice, except the foam continued to expand a small amount, and it developed some small cracks that I had to go back and touch up. Don’t know if that might be an issue on your decoy?

From: One Arrow
19-Oct-22
Judging from whats been carved already, I can’t wait to see the final product… and I sure hope you trick a monster with him! Too cool

From: be still
19-Oct-22

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No Troy this foam did the same thing. It’s weird stuff…like the next day there was spots where it came from inside and expanded out in different areas. Even when I had to cut the head off to shorten the neck there was just a few spots way inside that was still damp. But I plan on using caulk or something to smooth it all. Think it’s going to turn out great.

I found out when I cut into it that this thing is going to be very durable. With all that chicken wire with the other foam and pipe it’s very solid. A guy I think could toss this around and not hurt it much.

Here’s what it look like inside. I had tied a wire if you look close to the coupling I had on the neck down to the top of the pipe on his back just for a little more support. Didn’t need it probably but I like things stout. I’ve already got the head back on. Took about 3 inches out of the pipe on the neck…it looks so much better now. I’ll post a few more pics in a few days after I carve on it more.

From: Catscratch
20-Oct-22
That's coming along really nice! Your pup doesn't take those foam scraps and hide them all over the house for you?

From: be still
20-Oct-22
Yeah Ray I hope it brings one in.

Thanks for the pics Cat. I was going to lay em back but that 1st pic they’re laid back and also the inside of the ear is turned down. I might try and carve it something like that.

From: ksq232
20-Oct-22
I’m pretty intrigued by this, not as in I wanna do it intrigued, I have no skills; but I can’t help but check in and see if there’s been any updates. Looking good Calhoun!

From: One Arrow
20-Oct-22
So I’m assuming this thing “smells” of chemicals, glue, or foam pretty bad?

Curious as to what your plan is to address that?

From: be still
20-Oct-22

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Thanks guys. Cat she’s not messing with the foam too bad. When I was building the frame she kept getting the small pieces of pipe and holding them like a cigar.

Ray it’s really not that bad but I know the deer will be able to smell it but that’s not bothering me too much. My way of thinking is if it don’t have no human scent on it I’ll be alright. Might even make em curious…I could be wrong though. Even though I don’t believe in too much of the scent control stuff I do like using deer urine and other deer scent. That’s another reason I picked foam too…cause I think this foam will really sink in the deer scent and I’m going to douse it pretty good.

After I put the head back on I had to do some more foaming on it last night so I had to let that dry. I got to work on it some just earlier. Here some sneak peeks James. I’ve got the general rough shape done now but it’s still a little too thick and big so I’ll start shaving it down now. I’ll start adding muscle, tendons, veins, etc. Wanted to get the rough shape done first so I didn’t get one area too small…it’s a lot easier to shave down then try to add to it.

The texture is getting smoother as I work on it. There might be little pockets left but I’ll fill them with light spackling or taxidermy puffy.

Don’t look close at the ears…I still didn’t foam enough last night in the right spot to carve them like I want. After seeing Cat’s pic I want them slightly folded over. I’ll get them there though. On the head I’m going to use plenty of that taxidermy puddy to really shape the eyes and nose. This foam leaves too many holes for fine detail.

From: sitO
21-Oct-22
Dude, paint that thing and put some "horns" on it, it will work!

You could sell these ya know...did you see what DSD charges?

From: be still
21-Oct-22

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Here you go Cat:?)

She’s just smooth chillin right now.

From: be still
21-Oct-22
Kyle I have never really checked on what they cost to buy. The materials on this one was pretty costly but I think it will be worth it.

If I ever build another though I’m going to wait on the guy that spray foams my houses. He could probably spray it in about 5 minutes and that foam is probably better and easier to work with.

21-Oct-22
They way that is shaping up, my guess is that by the time you get done, and get it painted, it will look like a piece of art that will stand in the corner of the living room because it will be to purty to take out to get gored by another buck.

From: t-roy
21-Oct-22
Wow! That thing is really taking shape! Can’t wait to see the finished product. What are your plans for coloration? Simply gonna Krylonate it, or go another route? Several years ago, I used some black spray paint to mark some bullseyes on a homemade foam archery target. It seemed to kind of eat the foam, and didn’t work well at all. Might be something to test, if you’re going that route. It might not be an issue at all on the spray foam, either.

From: Kansan
21-Oct-22
It’s all coming together!

From: kscowboy
21-Oct-22
I have a feeling a 2nd decoy would make a great KBA auction item...

From: sitO
21-Oct-22
^^ this

From: be still
21-Oct-22
Blake and Kyle let’s not get too far ahead ourselves here just yet:?)

Brian I’ve already thought about that too. Hopefully it doesn’t get into too many fights…but am hoping it brings them in. Now if it gets worked over by the buck I’m after and I end up getting him…I’ll call that a fair trade.

Troy I haven’t put much thought into the paint I’m going to use just yet but I’m sure glad you mentioned that. Going to test some on a piece of this scrap foam for sure now and let it dry for least a day to see what it does.

From: tacklebox
21-Oct-22
This is awesome...

From: One Arrow
22-Oct-22
This is what bowsite SHOULD be about… can’t wait to see the final product.

From: be still
24-Oct-22

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Thanks again fellas. I was planning on working on this over the weekend but Saturday turned into football and family day. When I heard it was going to rain today Sunday turned into an septic work day. Turned out good…got 2 inspected today and got one covered before it got too wet.

Well this evening I have been shaving it down some and it’s getting real close to where I’m about to start putting the putty and caulk on to smooth it down for the paint. Started putting the mouth, nose, and lips on it. It will look better after it’s caulked.

Got to work on the whole thing still but it’s getting there. Going to leave the ears thick right now for durability reasons. Might work on them after season is over but right now time is of the essence. I’m getting that itch pretty bad so we’s gots to go.

I want y’all to tell me something though…should I shave the neck down just a hair? I’ve been looking at it and sometimes I think it’s fine but then there’s a few times it might look a little thick. Somebody tell me something.

From: crestedbutte
24-Oct-22
What in the Eddie Van Halen is a goin on in that house? Last nights beer pong game and solo cups strewn throughout the house and peoples clothes just were they left’em. Tell Erika to quit going to football games and clean the house and while she is at it…make me a sandwich.

BTW….I like the swollen neck and once placed in the beautiful but chaotic natural environment and paint added the mass of the neck won’t be so bold or stark as it is right now in your carving shop?

From: be still
24-Oct-22

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I still got to shape the Tarsal Glands. Going to make quite a few cut marks in them when I get finished that way the deer scent will hopefully sink into them better.

Jason she’s been pretty patient with the mess I’ve been making but she starting to give me hints that I need to wrap it on up:?)

From: crestedbutte
24-Oct-22
Give Utah some sand paper. That Bears/Patriots game was a run away. Looks like he needs something to do.

From: be still
24-Oct-22

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You guessed right…he was watching football and looking at his phone. Somehow he can tell instantly how many points a player has through his phone. He’s all into that Football Fantasy thing…I yet to see what all the excitement there is in that. Look at him here though:?) This is what He’s doing most of the time when we’re driving somewhere. I finally told him today on the way back from work to quit looking at that dang phone…there’s just so much I can take from all that jitter jatter noise coming from that thing.

Another view looking up at it…I’m thinking about one day making a doe decoy bedded down and maybe putting her in front of him.

From: crestedbutte
24-Oct-22
Is #24 getting ready for Friday nights game? Is that team from Waco an arch rival of VM?

From: be still
25-Oct-22
Ha you figured out his new number.

Yep you guessed right on that one too…they have been a rival for quite some time. They’re pretty bad in football this year as well so we better take this one.

From: sitO
25-Oct-22
So realistic, I guarantee it's going to work. Keep in mind that if you drip or spray tarsal scent on him it will soak into that foam, and he'll have that scent in your vehicle etc, and wherever you store him. Might be better to put a pin or something to hang an actual cut off gland on, or a "scent bomb" type cannister that would hold the scent?

Are you going to "flock" the outer layer, or texture the final application to resemble hair?

You need to be prepared for this(see video at 3:20min mark), and decide if you're going to scare off bucks you don't want to shoot...or let the "chips" fall where they may

From: Catscratch
25-Oct-22
The decoy is looking great! I'm not sure but I figure your dog thinks you are crazy. Something about the look she's always giving you when you take pics...

Great video Sit! There was something weird on the ground though. Almost looked like water in a slough, but that couldn't be as that's as rare as hen's teeth. Must have been an out of state hunt. Sito, when they spook due to a decoy do you think they get the same fear as when they spook from a human? I've had a bunch of them leave after getting up close to a deek but it doesn't seem to bother them much other than it seemed weird to them.

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25-Oct-22

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Kyle it would probably make my truck smell better but no I was planning on strapping him down in the bed of the truck.

I was planning on trying to make it look like hair but have simply run out of time. We’re just going to paint it. I might depending on time again do some something with the paint or mark something on there to resemble hair but kinda doubt it at this point.

I sure hope a buck doesn’t do that to this thing the first time out. That was some cool footage though and great videos. Makes me want to hurry up get on the road.

I didn’t want to let this trick out of the book yet but I doubled up a wire and have it tied to the top pipe that is his spine inside. For awhile now I’ve wanted to use a decoy but I always decided not too cause I hate scaring deer away. I came up with this idea and hope it helps…I’m going to have a string tied to this wire loop and when I set it out it’s going to be laid on its side. Probably won’t pull it up until I see an older buck and gauge his action. Might see how he reacts to a grunt first.

Cat I’m used to that look from people and animals. She’s not the first and probably won’t be the last to think I’m a little crazy:?)

From: sitO
25-Oct-22
I've had them stare at mine for a minute or two and walk off, some just scent check and eventually leave, some attack, and yea...I've had some come out of their skin when they smelled it. I leave mine outdoors for a bit before I start using it, and spray it with a scent killer at the beginning of the season. However, it rides with me in an enclosed vehicle(Suburban or Tahoe) and picks up all the scents therein. I should probably just get a few of them and leave them at the spots I hunt most.

From: be still
25-Oct-22
Now that you said that Kyle I might need to rethink this foam thing. In the future I might coat one with a real thin rubber or other type of material and just have a few spots left with foam where I soak the deer scent. Having the whole thing foam might soak in too many other scents. I could be wrong on them smelling and not alarming on other scents beside just human smell.

You and Cat need to hang around though cause I’m sure I’m going to be asking y’all some questions since I’m not experienced hunting with one. Questions like the way I need to have it facing or the directions bucks most likely take coming in…etc.

From: Thornton
25-Oct-22
Be careful what you put on that foam. Lots of liquids will make it dissolve.

From: sitO
25-Oct-22
JB may have other ideas, but I like to face mine towards me usually...but try to have him looking into an area of cover if possible. They almost always circle downwind, and often like to approach from the backside unless very aggressive. If I'm on the ground I don't face him directly at me, they'll look to see what he's staring at, and you don't want them to pick you off.

Interested to see how the "prop" idea works

From: Catscratch
25-Oct-22
For me they typically approach head on, not from the tail side.

I like to put it about 20-30yds in front of me, facing me with the wind in my face. This lets them circle down wind of the decoy (upwind of me), between the decoy and me, with them looking at the decoy (away from me).

From: be still
25-Oct-22

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I’ll try and store all this knowledge y’all are giving me and try to use it in the field. I might have to have it sideways with me since I’ll be pulling it up unless I get an eyebolt in the ground off to the side of him and run the string through there.

I’m just starting to caulk it now and I like how it’s going on. I might just spread a thin layer of caulk all over it. This caulk is supposed to set up hard and not crack…we’ll see.

After I caulk the whole thing I’ll come back and carve a little more…especially around the eyelids, nose, and mouth. Then I plan on sanding it some and then it should be ready for paint.

25-Oct-22
Looking to good to take to the field to me. Remember deer come in various sizes, stages of swollen neck, close but not exact colorations. I think at this point you are over thinking it, with hair detail, sculpting more around the eyes etc. I bet very few deer have your artistic eye, especially when they are rut crazy. Find a paint that won’t dissolve your foam, get it painted, and get up here and go hunting!

25-Oct-22
Coat of flexi seal if it don't dissolve the foam.

From: MBabs
25-Oct-22
That is some great work. Always wondered about putting an actual full body hide on a decoy for a more realistic look. Dunno if it's worth the trouble, but since you are going a out....maybe?

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25-Oct-22

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25-Oct-22

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Well earlier today I thought by now I would have all the caulk on and sanded down but I had to go cover a job up. The 2 tanks that was going in the ground on Friday got moved to early in the morning. So hopefully that means I get to leave to head up there a few days earlier than planned.

Brian I hear you and since I’m running out of time I probably need to listen to your advice.

Thane I seen some of that when I got the caulk but what I seen said it couldn’t be painted.

Mike I called my taxidermist friend yesterday to ask about some putty he uses sometimes. He hadn’t seen a pic of yet but I told him I was trying to make it look pretty realistic and that’s what he suggested…putting a tanned hide over it. Now I didn’t think too much of it when he said it but after work when I seen your post I did some thinking on the way home. It would work I bet and the more I keep thinking about it the more I like that idea.

Hopefully tomorrow evening I’ll get done with the caulking and maybe start painting on it Thursday or Friday. I’m going to bed…I’m tired.

From: crestedbutte
25-Oct-22
Mike….just please make sure you are filming some of your encounters with this deke. Can’t wait to see the video of a big ole gnarly buck when he gores the hell out of this thing and drives his antlers clean into the body cavity and into the internal cage work of chicken wire that will no doubt take a hold of them antler tips and not let go.

Be at the ready…as you may have to shoot one in pure self-defense of your deke, HA! Will be laughing my butt off when your video shows him running off with your decoy stuck to his head. Just hope for the bucks sake he can clear himself of it.

See my video posted on the Pronghorn thread. Your deke is gonna be that guys shoe. Can’t wait to see it and keep up the fine work!

From: One Arrow
26-Oct-22
This is awesome, yet kind of ticks me off I don’t have this kind of talent.

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26-Oct-22
A hide over it would probably add some weight but may be like armour.

From: NCK
26-Oct-22
If I tried that it would look like a pile of dung. Well done..........

From: Tejas
26-Oct-22
Man that’s coming along nice….good work!

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26-Oct-22
I made a boot jack once

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27-Oct-22

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Jason it never crossed my mind about that chicken wire getting hung up on some horns but you’re right…let’s hope that doesn’t happen. I just know it would make your day though:?)

Thanks again everybody. This is the first time I have ever carved a sculpture and since it’s late October it’s been rushed and a little stressful but it’s been fun.

Left before light and got home way after dark from work so I didn’t get much done on it. Would have finished caulking but ran out. Going to buy 2 tubes tomorrow and finish that part tomorrow evening. Here’s the last pics I’ll send of it like it is now. Friday or Saturday evening hopefully I’ll be posting some pics of it being painted.

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27-Oct-22

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Put thicker caulk on his forehead earlier and roughed it up a bit. If I would have more time I could maybe put just a little thicker coat of caulk over his whole body and like Kyle was saying…etch some lines for deer fur. Maybe I’ll do that on the next one or maybe we’ll come up with a better idea all together.

From: Catscratch
27-Oct-22
Dang life like already! You do great work!

You're going to have to be careful hauling that thing around so that someone doesn't take a pot shot at you from one of those tower blinds popping up all over the country side.

From: One Arrow
27-Oct-22
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28-Oct-22

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Got all my jobs done yesterday and it was raining this morning so I got the paint brushes out.

Decided not to make it look like real hair. It would take too long and I keep seeing this pics of bucks ramming decoys so it’s probably best we don’t spend too much more time on it. I do have 6 different shades of paint I’m working with though.

I got to stop now and go do some things before some places close for the weekend but here’s what the head is looking like so far.

From: KB
28-Oct-22
That is nice!

28-Oct-22
The caulk and foam texture gives a more life like appearance. I kinda hate to see you use it. Its artwork!!!

From: sitO
28-Oct-22
You need to video the encounters bud, going to be epic!

28-Oct-22
Hell, put antlers on it an stand it in the corner of the living room. Too nice to take to the field to be gored by a rutting buck! Looking fantastic.

From: tacklebox
28-Oct-22
That's gonna work magic!

From: Catscratch
28-Oct-22
The first little 3 pointer that sees it is going to get drained! Bestill will be sitting there watching the little knucklehead stiff leg it towards his work of art and he'll be thinking "oh hell no you don't! Not going to destroy all that work". Then he'll shoot it and have to head back to Texas to buy a decoy he doesn't care about for next season.

From: sitO
28-Oct-22
I think it will take a "licking" or two, and he can always make another I reckon. How much does it weigh right now Mike?

I say we start a GoFundMe, and he starts selling these for about half the price of the DSD's!

From: KB
28-Oct-22
Definitely needs to be one on the KBA auction block! Bet it brings more than a DSD. :)

From: ksq232
28-Oct-22
Looks great!!!

From: be still
28-Oct-22
24.4 lbs. It feels quite a bit heavier than it did before I put the caulk on. That one day I was guessing around 10 and after that I still shaved quite a bit of foam off. Didn’t think the caulk would add that much weight but I did put a lot of tubes of caulk on it. It has gotten heavier than I wanted cause there some places I have to walk a mile and one further than that but it will be alright.

Yes Kyle I might be headed to get a video camera in the morning. I’ve wanted one for awhile now and I think I’ve finally talked myself into getting one.

Cat I’m not going to pull him into a standing position on a young en. So hopefully the only way he gets a whooping is by an older buck I would be happy with and I’m hoping an arrow runs through him first:?)

Always got something going on…had to go to the football game earlier. Planning on finishing painting him early in the morning before I run into town. Every year I tell myself that next year I’m going to plan ahead where I won’t be rushed right before a hunting trip. This has been going on for 30 something years now…and never seems to work out.

From: crestedbutte
29-Oct-22
The only thing left to do is naming him. Let’s have a naming competition. Mike gets to choose the winner! Only one name per handle…so make it a good one!

29-Oct-22
Achilles (Trojan horse)

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29-Oct-22

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That’s a good start Thane.

Well he’s done son…for the time being anyways. Might work on it some more after season but it should for right now. Got to fix the horns where they’re a little more stable.

Got to run into town right quick. Any suggestions on a good camera? Something that’s fairly simple for a guy that’s not very tech savvy can use. I do want a nice one that can zoom in from pretty far away and be clear as well.

From: Bwhnt
29-Oct-22
Omg...that's some serious dedication and skills right there

From: be still
29-Oct-22
Thank you Bow Hunter. I don’t know about the skill part but I try hard anyways.

I’ll post a few more pics later and show the different shades of paint I used to come to this color in case some of y’all might want to build one some day. I was worried about that part cause colors can be tricky.

29-Oct-22
Damn man, you better put an orange vest on it when you carry it in. I’d hate to see you or it get poached on the carry in. That decoy is amazing.

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29-Oct-22

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Here’s an option from an old thread for getting that thing in a mile or more like you’re talking, assuming you’re not busting through much thick stuff. Wrap the body in something orange for a little paint/foam protection from the straps probably isn’t a bad idea either.

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29-Oct-22

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Kaleb you saved me man. I was already trying to figure out how to carry this thing since it got a tad heavier than I wanted. 24lbs ain’t going to be nothing tied to my back like that. I looked for a backpack like that earlier in town but I couldn’t find. Thinking about trying to make some kind of straps and tie it to one of my backpacks. But yeah Brian carrying it in daylight I probably need to be careful.

The darker color here was the original base. I went over it later with the lighter apricot color to lighten it up some. I left some of the darker in spots so it would have a little variation in it.

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29-Oct-22

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Here’s all the shades of paint I used. The gray I used around the eyelids and between the white and black nose to blend the line so it wasn’t such a stark line. I might have used a little on the face as well along with the tan a little. Was going going to blend those colors in on the body as well but ran out of time. Didn’t really use the bright white but instead went with the off white.

From: sitO
29-Oct-22
It's just unbelievable bro. Did you get a camera? I'd suggest a Canon Vixia G series, but may be more than you want to spend.

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29-Oct-22

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Thanks man…here’s a few more what it looks like outside. In this last pic you can see the different shades of color on the head a little better with the natural light.

No I got aggravated in town. There was a bunch of traffic today and I felt rushed combined with I really don’t anything about the cameras made the trip not very pleasurable. I ended up getting upset and just buying a cheap one. There was some more expensive ones but they didn’t have any in stock.

The guy did say I could return this one if I decided to order a different one online. Thinking about doing that and having it shipped directly up there. I want a camera that I can take still shots and video both. I’ll check on the one you suggested.

From: Trebarker
29-Oct-22
You missed your calling, should be making dekes instead of shit pits lol

From: Catscratch
29-Oct-22
Great job man! Looks outstanding!

From: Kansan
29-Oct-22
Wow! Fantastic work!

From: t-roy
29-Oct-22
Turned out fantastic, Be Still! I can’t see that thing NOT working! How did you go about doing the antlers. I don’t think you covered that in an earlier post. If you did, my apologies.

From: be still
29-Oct-22
Lol Randy I like my job of taking care of people’s shit. I had to laugh when Kyle gave me the tip that I might get a deer urine smell inside my truck. He just doesn’t know me very well yet. If he knows what the inside of my truck looks like he wouldn’t have said that:?)

Thanks again everybody and thanks for everyone that helped with ideas and tips. I felt like we all built this together and I’m sure glad that I abandoned my first idea I had going. Pretty sure it wouldn’t have turned out as stable.

Troy at the top of his head I had two 3/4 pvc 45’s that I had left open and foamed around it. I took an old dead head I had in the corner and sawed the horns off at the Pedicle below the burr. I then took a grinder and grounded the pedicle down to fit snug into those holes. His right horn I grounded a little too much so it’s a little loose. Might put some tape around it to thicken it up so it will hold in place better.

And Ray I’m pretty sure if you just set your mind to this you could build one.

From: One Arrow
30-Oct-22
I’d name him Katelyn, since he had his “handle” removed.

I’m beyond impressed with how this turned out… that’s better than any decoy I’ve seen on the market.

From: NCK
30-Oct-22
Wish I had your talent!!!!!!!!

From: t-roy
30-Oct-22
I’ll submit “Mad Fax” (facsimile) for his name.

From: MBabs
30-Oct-22
Cannot wait to see this thing in action. Looks stellar!

From: sitO
30-Oct-22
I think you should call him "Bill Self", so when he gets beat up nobody will feel bad

From: Bwhnt
30-Oct-22
Not sure how bad the road "hunters" are where you live but I would not set that up anywhere in sight of the road here.

From: KSflatlander
30-Oct-22
Wow. That’s incredible and amazingly well done!

From: be still
30-Oct-22
I can already tell it’s going to be tough choosing a name with all the winners coming in. Ray’s made me laugh and Kyle’s was very clever.

Ryan my son thought I made the body just a tad too big so I’m hoping the deer I’m after has a body as big as the one you just shot.

From: sitO
05-Nov-22
Where you at bro?

05-Nov-22
I was wondering the same? Hope everything’s ok.

From: Catscratch
05-Nov-22
Bestill is fine. Out chasing big bucks not taking time for social media. I'm guessing he'll have decoy action pics to post in a day or two.

From: Trebarker
05-Nov-22
Hollywood- Fake beauty with more silicone than a 60yr old movie star

05-Nov-22
Good deal. Can’t wait to see how things turn out.

From: sitO
05-Nov-22
I hope "Bill Self" gets the $... knocked out of him, and that Mike got a camera, cause I wanna see that!

From: Tejas
05-Nov-22
So I’m guessing you tried to somewhat replicate the DSD decoy? I think you did a great job no matter what!

From: be still
05-Nov-22
Sorry guys I haven’t been checking in but this morning was the 1st time I took him out. Cat texted me and said y’all were questioning about me…now don’t I feel all special. It was warm and very windy up here till yesterday morning so I didn’t feel like messing with him plus I haven’t been feeling the greatest…some kind of congestion slash sore throat.

It has been slow until yesterday when I seen quite a few. This morning seen quite a few as well but none old enough to bring to “What’s His Name”. Did see a good one yesterday evening that I might would shoot in a week or 2 if I get lucky enough to see him again and if nothing else better happens to wander by. He’s definitely old enough and I’m guessing around 22” wide. I’m seeing chasing by younger ones now and he even chased a little.

Now Randy you just hurt What’s His Name’s feelers. He’s going to show you what’s up:?)

Shane I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a DSD decoy so I guess you could say I was just trying to make it look kinda real. Gots to go I’ll post a few pics of the set up this morning a little later. Good luck to everybody.

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05-Nov-22

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Well here he is on his first hunt. Got there in the dark this morning at this spot. Some cows were there and as they got all around me I decided we needed to move up the hill. Glad I did cause it was a better spot with a lot better view and What’s His Name can be seen better from different hillsides.

Soon as I got him up the hill I went to a cedar and when I turned around I spotted a little young 8 with split G2s bedded on the opposite hill. Couldn’t believe he stayed cause I was pretty much in his view on nearly the whole walk up. My rangefinder said he was only 190 yards away. Only thing I can think of is that he was confused…did I just see a deer float up the hill with 2 legs walking under him:?)

Seen quite a few after that as they were moving all morning long. The closest ones was probably about 70 yards away where a little buck was chasing a doe across the little ravine. Kept quiet cause I didn’t want that little turd coming over.

From: be still
05-Nov-22

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Left him there nearby on his side pushed up underneath a cedar. Really like that spot and when I got up to leave after 11:00 I bent and broke over some of that little scrub brush so I can have more shooting lanes. After the sun comes up a little he’s going to be in the sunshine and I’m the hill about 20 yards away in the shade and against a pretty good size cedar. I’m facing west so the sun is not in my eyes either.

Next morning with the right wind I’m headed back there. I can already tell I like hunting with a decoy and me and him I’m sure will have lots to learn together but it’s going to be fun. Can’t wait till the next hunt with him.

From: sitO
05-Nov-22
So pretty much like everywhere else today, except the good 8 Thane saw. "Chasing big bucks" is a relative term ;?)

Good luck tomorrow bud!

06-Nov-22
I gotta say “Ol’ What’s his name” looks pretty damn good standing out the in the field.

From: be still
07-Nov-22
Alright now I don’t really want to do a semi live hunt in November but since I’m going to be in this tree all day thought I will give ya’ll a few snapshots. Not posting anything at night cause I’m sharing camp with a special guy. 60 something year old man that is retired and lives to hunt. Starting in October he rarely misses a day. Broke his back falling out of a tree about 13 years ago. Nearly lost his life and had to airlifted out of there. Still has shoulder pains and other aches from it but he doesn’t complain. Has to take shots sometimes before hunting seasons to be able to pull his bow back but here he is still going strong.. I’ve only known him for a couple years but planning on being friends the rest of the way.

You will never catch him in a lie and that just about says it all. Real salt of the earth kind of guy….folks I like to be around. So y’all will have to excuse me at night cause I’m not about to waste any moments with him…love to hear his hunting stories.

Anyway crept in here while the moon was still on the horizon. Very active morning so far. Seen plenty of deer. Watched 2 young’ bucks playfully fight across the creek. One was a mainframe 10 with split 2s. Young little squirt that should come to age in about 3 or so years. Ended up coming right under my tree and went down exactly the path I used climbing up the creek bank at the base of the tree. Didn’t get my phone out in time but managed a video as he got further out.

Plenty of doe and right in amongst them. Got a doe bedded right now in sight. She’s between the gray tree and the dark tree across the creek.

Oh yeah and got a possible shooter out in the CRP bedded with a doe about 300 yards away. Watched him watch a young buck chase around a doe for awhile until he had enough then he intercepted. Pretty sure she was tired cause it didn’t take long and she stood still for him. He mounted her a couple times. Couldn’t tell exactly how big he was but hoping I find out later. He would have to be a real thumper for me to pull back on cause I’m not ready to leave my friend at camp. This is what it’s about folks.

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07-Nov-22

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Right when I texted about the possible shooter I looked over there to estimate the distance for ya’ll I seen a deer running. I better quit texting and start watching…you know at noon hour on full moons can be special. The 1st pic is looking that direction where they’re at. A few other pics of what I’m looking at.

From: be still
07-Nov-22

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From: Bwhnt
07-Nov-22
Reading along....thanks for posting it's a good distraction from work

From: ksq232
07-Nov-22
Good stuff Calhoun!

From: Kansan
07-Nov-22
Sounds like you’re having a great time! That looks to be a pretty nice buck, in your picture.

From: be still
07-Nov-22

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Thanks James.

Bow Hunter I don’t know you but you seem to have enough age on you to understand a man doesn’t need to work in November. Only if you call hunting and all that comes with it work I guess…which I don’t:?)

Kyler that pic makes him look bigger but he does have all the right stuff to be something one day.

Well he’s went to sleep already and it’s only 8:00 and I’m still a little wired up so I’ll let y’all know how the day went. Seen deer throughout the whole day. About 40 minutes or so before dark I spotted the possible shooter. This morning him and the doe was on the east side of the row of cottonwoods in the CRP. This evening I spotted him on the west side in the CRP standing guard. Never seen the doe but a couple times he went down in the shallow dip only to return. Didn’t even try with the horns cause the chances him leaving that doe is not good and by that time I was having does coming out from the creek. Didn’t want to run them off either. The inclination I got from the show this morning is he probably just got with her.

Too I got a better look at him this evening and I don’t think he’s quite what I want. Couple times when he was looking my way he made my heart stutter but when he would turn his head his tines didn’t look quite that long. Not sure on his age either but a solid enough deer. Would like to get a closer look at him.

With the full moon still a little bit in the sky in the morning I think I could make my way in from the north real slow using my binoculars. Probably a decent chance I could make it in there to get set up somewhere in that ditch to get closer to that area. It would be a ground hunt but the wind is right so we’ll see. Not sure if it’s worth going through all the trouble if I don’t think I plan on drawing back on him. Another big one could move in though if she just came in and is smelling good.

Here’s a few parting shots with the moon coming up. A couple does was coming across so I snapped a few shots. Tried taking a few of the buck through the zoom glasses but it was a fail…it was too blurry through the branches I was in. Took a few with the flash on and a few with it off. For just a phone I thought they turned out decent. This is looking east and that’s where he was standing about 250 yards away on the hill in the CRP scanning the lower bottom.

People back home think I’m crazy and ask how I pass the deer I pass sometimes. They don’t have a clue on I how I feel up here sometimes. When you pull back and release it’s over till next year. If I would have shot that really wide mature deer the other day I wouldn’t have seen and felt this spectacular view at last light this evening.

Ya’ll Kansas folk know it and seen it many times but some of us other folk don’t get many chances. Yep…one of the last looks of him was him standing in little over knee high CRP with with a row of white skeleton cottonwoods behind him. With the full moon already in the sky over his left shoulder to his side shining through the cottonwoods helping to put some extra light on his horns. All the while the wind has calmed down and does are filtering across in between.

Life is very good and there is a whole lotta things that inspire me and makes me feel really good. Times like these in the tree I’m telling you ranks right with a few at the top. Some people go after money…riches can’t touch this.

From: sitO
08-Nov-22
Some cool pics bud, watching from afar...good luck!

08-Nov-22
Amazing skills you have Be Still ! Good luck hunting!

08-Nov-22
Will follow as you post, but enjoy your trip and fellow hunter 1st and foremost. And good luck.

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09-Nov-22

From: doubledrop
09-Nov-22
Unreal! Love this thread. It’s amazing what you turned that into. I’ll be honest, I didn’t have the vision early on. Watching the progression was better than a Bob Ross painting. Wishing you the best of luck with him in the field. That will be awesome! We got the name, the first thing that came to mind was mixing foam and buck. Not so sure it’s g rated and I’m not usually the cussing type. Just thought it was kind of funny. Good luck! Can’t wait to hear the rest of the stories. Also, forgot to mention I have had great luck buying factory refurbished Canon video cameras. Kyle mention Vixia and I currently use the G50 and love it.

From: Jrhendricks
09-Nov-22
One of the best threads we have had in awhile.

From: be still
09-Nov-22

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Thanks everybody…I think a lot of y’all could make a decoy like this if you put your mind to it.

Well it’s 7:46 and my fellow hunter went to bed about about 15 minutes ago. He’s got a different sleep schedule than most folk. He goes to bed right after dark but gets up about 2:30 in the morning and starts drinking coffee. I’m like dang man…don’t you think it’s a little early.

Dylan I might know what your thinking on the name but you might have to PM that name to me…I’m a little slow sometimes:?) Kyle wanted Bill Self. Now anybody that knows anything about Kyle knows what he thinks about cheating. Whether it sports or hunting…etc. So yeah Kyle we can’t name him that. I’m pretty sure that’s the camera I’ll end up buying…and if a refurbished one is just as good I love saving money. I don’t like being rushed though and since filming is new to me I went with a real cheap one just to get the feel of it. I brought the camera with me but I haven’t took it hunting with me yet. So far it’s just been this phone.

Update….I haven’t made it back to the spot where I left Ole What’s His Name. I’m still waiting on some of y’all to submit y’all’s names. I stuck him under the tree there cause it was a pretty long tote carrying him, his horns, my rattling horns, and bow to that spot. Never did get the backpack KB suggested. Thought the wind was right the next morning but found out I was wrong later…dang weather people can’t predict too far in advance it seems. Anyway hopefully the cows haven’t got nosy and pawed around on it. If they have I can’t complain cause I could have not been lazy and carried it out.

Yesterday morning went in to a Walk-In place north of where that buck had that doe bedded in the CRP the day before. It’s a little ditch that runs up in there with a few trees. I know deer like to cruise up in there and bed there as well. Got there before light and found a good spot to sit…except for the tree. Had to pick to enough of the long thorns off it’s side for big enough spot for back to lean on. Them things doesn’t exactly tickle by the way. Not much for deer movement but did have a doe come over the horizon around 10:00 and was headed my way. Got hopeful…but no buck behind her. She came across about 9 yards in front of me and if an old buck had been behind her it would have a slam dunk shot…I think I might have even made that shot.

She made it passed me and got to the spot downwind of where I had been watching a bobcat climbing to the top of some trees just earlier. Figured he was still right there on the ground behind the tall weeds. Sure enough she stopped and looked that with and blew a few time before walking straight away from him.

I still haven’t figured out what this bobcat was doing in these trees at the top. I mean these limbs are not very big up there and sometimes was swaying back and forth. Never seen one do that…I seen one time way up a tree that had a squirrel penned out on the end but nothing like this. He stayed a pretty long time the first time moving around up there before coming down. A little later went up the tree I think right beside and did the same…to the top. It was only about 50 yards away but I couldn’t make anything out though like if he was eating anything off of the tree. Anybody with any ideas what he was doing?

Didn’t hunt today. When you offer help to farmers around here they sure will take you upon it…they don’t play around:?) Now on the early October trip somehow they really didn’t need me. Then comes early November and then what do you know…surprise we have a winner:?) No he was real nice and said now I don’t want to take you from hunting but I knew he needed me so it was time to go to work. After the mornings work though of loading a bunch of things out of a barn and headed to take a fence down close to lunch I spotted a big bodied buck on a very slow run across the wide open and headed right behind where we was going to be working. When we pulled in I couldn’t help but say…hold on. I was trying to get a better look to see what was on top of his head. I could feel the urgency in the truck though. I could read the drivers thoughts…we ain’t got time to be playing around with these silly deer. So I said yeah let’s go cause we got work to do. Being a place he said I could hunt…you better believe though I stole a few glances behind me along the creek bottom as I was pulling wire and posts to see if I could catch him sneaking through.

That’s if I can ever can get back to hunting. Late this evening right before I got in my truck to leave he said if I wasn’t doing anything tomorrow afternoon I could go help tear another fence out:?)

From: be still
09-Nov-22

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From: be still
09-Nov-22
And poor thing…right before she smelled the bobcat she held this position for a very long time but nothing came out. A lot longer squat than I’ve ever seen. I mean after awhile I was like come on you can do it…but nada. No little turds wanted to come. I guess they have trouble going sometimes too.

From: be still
10-Nov-22
Well someone texted me earlier and said this doe was either peeing or in heat wanting something. Now if that’s right I feel kinda stupid. Now I didn’t see no pee come out and I always thought when doe came into heat they held their tail out sometimes when walking or standing. Didn’t know they so hard up they went around squatting everywhere. Now I seen many times where deer drop pellets as they were just standing or walking around. I knew they didn’t have to squat but thought since she couldn’t get anything to come out she was giving it the extra squeeze.

From: Trebarker
10-Nov-22
She's peeing down her leg across her glands

From: Kansan
10-Nov-22
Good on you for helping out the locals!

From: be still
11-Nov-22
Finally back to the spot where the decoy is at. Cows hasn’t messed it up but wouldn’t you know they’re close by. Am I complaining….hell no. It’s November and the temps fas cooled off…in just fine. Wind all by quite right but I got tired of waiting. It might work though. Wind is pretty strong though for rattling to get their attention.

From: be still
11-Nov-22

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She better not…

From: ksq232
11-Nov-22
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11-Nov-22

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We’ll change of plans. Too many cows hanging around there at that spot and after sitting there for awhile realized the wind was probably a little too strong. If the deer was pretty far away might not hear the horns anyway. Sorry if I misspell anything…don’t have my readers on.

Walk to the back of the place which is the south side. I’m just going ease around and head north to keep the wind in my face. Try to ease up to some of these draws without scaring but get close enough to where they can hear the horns. When I get to a spot today I’ll probably sit for an hour or so to see if anything is moving. Probably rattle right before I get up to move to the next ravine for a last ditch effort. Let’s see hit some of these draws and what happens. Bet some of these deer are hunkered down pretty tight in them today.

From: be still
11-Nov-22
Stop #1….facing north. Got a draw that veers east, got a long running draw running north, and west I got a pond with a draw to the west of that. I got kinda on the north side of that pond so if anything comes out of that draw they have to skirt on the north side of it so they won’t wind me when I rattle later. Let’s just sit and use the word that is a virtue for awhile though first. I’ll try and send a pic of this spot after this but since I’m down in a hole…might not send.

From: be still
11-Nov-22

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10:04…Spot #2…a spot where 3 good draws come together. I’m facing where they all meet at the head of a pond on the southeast side of all them. Kinda like to get down to those cedars out front but not sure I want to push my luck on scaring deer. At the head of the draw running north is where I rattled that young buck in last year and made that huge mistake. Let’s pray that never ever happens again.

Well the moon is about to set on the horizon…they say deer movement is best when the moon is straight up or down and fair when it’s setting or rising. Don’t know if that’s true or not but it sounds romantic speaking in deer terms. Going to try and sit here for a couple hours.

From: ksq232
11-Nov-22
Looks awesome Calhoun

From: Catscratch
11-Nov-22
Go get em! They're moving today. Watched this one this morning and my dad said he had one about walk into his truck. Head down and nose to the ground.

https://youtu.be/hGLd0OaVnHI

From: Kansan
11-Nov-22
Take no prisoners, guy!

From: be still
11-Nov-22

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3rd spot…not going to sit here long. About to bang the horns together and move on. Only deer seen so far is one spike. Going to be on another place this evening so I can’t waste too much more time here.

From: be still
11-Nov-22

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5 doe came out of there. Nothing came to the rattling so I crawled to the edge. Made one jump but never she never came out. Backed up to my original spot and right before I got another got up. Never did spook them bad but they all ended getting out of there.

From: be still
11-Nov-22
This other place is out west of here for this evening. It’s a place I’ve never hunted and I don’t think I get signal there.

From: keepemsharp
11-Nov-22
Can you believe that folks from all over the country log into the KS site to follow along?

From: be still
11-Nov-22
Dave I didn’t know or should I say…I really wasn’t thinking about that. I better straighten up my act. Kind of makes me scared to post anything now that I think about it.

Hope your foot is feeling better and hopefully you’re getting to hunt some.

From: be still
12-Nov-22
Well my fellow hunter was awake by 2 something this morning drinking coffee so I got on up. Actually starting to get used to it now.

Headed out west again. Seen quite a few deer and bucks was on their feet. The decoy that I borrowed last year that was big, clumsy, and loud I’m taking with me. Left mine at the other place again. Hate this but that’s how it rolls when you’re on the run.

Probably sit for a couple hours where I sat yesterday evening for a couple hours and then grab the decoy and set it up somewhere and hit the horns. Don’t know the place good enough to be setting it up in the dark.

Shows the 13 degrees on my truck so I say she might be cool enough. I’ve still got a lot of junk in my chest and throat but I feel good but now it’s kinda turned into coughing. Hoping this cooler weather will get it all out. Light wind as well so this is about perfect weather. Wow I love this.

From: sitO
12-Nov-22
Today could be the day, good luck

From: be still
13-Nov-22
Thanks Kyle…yesterday believe or not was one of the slowest for me on deer movement. This morning headed back to the place where I took y’all a few times in October. Where the Milo, scrapes, and the acorns are at. Right when I got finished the 2nd day on fence work I was walking back to my truck and as soon as I started leaving I spotted a good buck running away from. I was taking the fence down right beside the place and the direction he was running I’m pretty sure came from there.

Anyways it’s the first morning I’m not feeling quite as bushy tail. Didn’t get much sleep cause last night was the worst as far as hacking up that dirty mucus.

Ella I heard is missing me like crazy and getting very depressed. You know a human understands you’re coming back but a dog doesn’t maybe. It’s starting to eat at me pretty bad now. Might have to lower my standards on horn size. If a deer like that old wide one that I passed the other day steps out it might be go time. Well let’s see what daylight brings us….nothing like sitting in a tree and watching it get light.

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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Since I’m in a tree and I get signal here I might give y’all a few updates…. Maybe.

6:39…already hear a few birds waking up. A cool light southeast wind and it feels pretty right. An old deer might better think about first before stepping out today in front of me.

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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7:18…about 10 minutes ago a big mature looking one kept running back and forth. Couldn’t never seen what he was chasing but now I got it figured out. Never did see another deer but I’m sure he’s got a doe bedded and what he was doing was chasing a buck or other younger ones off. So glad I didn’t try to rattle now. We’re going to be quiet and patient. Might try to the fawn in distress call around lunch if they don’t wander over here first. They’re about 250 yards away in a ditch in the cut milo out in front of me. Let’s go big boy

13-Nov-22
I’ve shot multiple bucks in the past on the 13th Nov. Good luck today, shoot straight.

From: be still
13-Nov-22
Thanks Brian. I think this one out front might could be the one. Hope to find out.

From: be still
13-Nov-22
7:40….about 8 minutes ago he charged out of there again only to coming trotting back. Second buck finally came into view and he wasn’t as small as I was expecting….that only confirms that we have a pretty good mature down there.

Alright I’m going to sign off now…can’t kill a deer yacking to y’all.

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13-Nov-22

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From: ksq232
13-Nov-22
Get ‘im Calhoun!!

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13-Nov-22

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9:41….about an hour ago I stood up to take a leak. I stole and a quick glance first out there and had to zip back up. I caught my first look at the doe. She lead him east across the milo. When she got to point where she knew she wasn’t going to turn my way I tried some fawn bleats. Not sure she hears it cause the wind was picking up but he acted like he did. She continued on though.

I’m cold. Ran out of clean thermal space cos and these cheap rubber boots on this metal stand ain’t cutting it. Don’t see no teasing b for her to walk this way so I’m about to get down and out of this wind. Going to slide east along the creek and find a spot on the ground.

He’s not a high scorer cause he’s just an 8 but he’s wide and white horns. Guessing around 20 wide and mature so he’ll probably work.

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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10:48….much more comfortable now. Crept along the creek east and then when the creek turned back north aways I popped out on the edge. I’m facing west where I came from. In the October thread this is the needing I was talking about.?usually don’t like doing this buts it’s windy since I thought I had a decent chance getting here.

Think there is a better chance now if she gets up to make be wander past this spot. They could be really close as we speak. I’m gainer deadfall partly in the shade. I might be close enough to them now where if I do some grunts later he might come check it out. Thought maybe if I could get within 75 yards or so maybe hat might be close enough. But for now we’re going to wait.

From: Bwhnt
13-Nov-22
Scores are for bowling...choot it!!! Fun hunt for you!

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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Lol Bowhunter I wish had some of that popcorn right now. Probably going to be stuck here on the ground all day since I like this spot….just feels right. Stomach is already telling me I should have ate breakfast but it will get fed good tonight.

There’s a good size rub to my right about 30 yards away. Sure looks nice shining in the sun. Alright see y’all after dark and maybe with a decent story to tell.

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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3:20….well it’s not dark but a change of plans. Sat there till 3 but decided to back on the south side of the creek. I’m back facing north again with a better view. My thinking is I got a better chance of seeing them and when I get a bead on where the doe is going I got drop off into the creek. The wind is blowing pretty good so I can nearly run in the dry creek and they shouldn’t hear me. I got a pretty good chance to intercept them if they come this way…lot better chance than a Baylor Cornerback could intercept anything. That’s for sure.

Oh yeah seen 2 doe right after that last post. A couple rooster pheasants. Around 2:00 a spike came by and shortly there after a coyote. The pretty thing nearly crawled into my lap…got about 4 yards away before I made a shhh noise to scare it away. Looked like it was to bed in the same deadfall as I was in. Got a video of it but don’t know how to post it. Alright now see y’all after dark.

From: Dragon
13-Nov-22
I'm afraid I would have killed the yote

From: Catscratch
13-Nov-22
Those are some great pics!

From: Kansan
13-Nov-22
That shag would’ve been in for a world of hurt if he walked in front of me like that! ;)

From: sitO
13-Nov-22
Close encounters!

From: be still
13-Nov-22
Just got back and ate. Got my glasses and realized I misspelled quite a few words…lol the word needing was supposed to be bedding and there was a few others.

No deer after 3 but overall it was a good day. Yeah that would have been an easy shot on the coyote. He stopped in sort of a low area where I could see just the top of its back at about 13 yards for awhile. He then got to my 4 or so yards right at the end the deadfall I was sitting in…well it was actually a big limb off a tree behind me that was still attached but laying in the ground. Couldn’t believe he couldn’t see me. The spike came by at about 6 yards…sure wishing he was a shooter cause I love easy shots.

On the coyote though. I can’t make myself draw back or have the heart to shoot them right now. They kinda remind me of Ella and about the last year or so I’ve been feeling different towards coyotes. I guess I’m getting soft in my old age but my dog has done a number on me. I sure don’t care if people shoot them cause they need to be thinned out but I just don’t want to be the one that has to do it. I’ll leave that to ya’ll:?)

From: be still
13-Nov-22

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Forgot to add this evenings sunset looking out over the cut milo on the south side of the creek.

From: be still
14-Nov-22

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Holy smokes aroo I’m a happy man right now. Morning started off good and then got awhole lot better. Sitting there enjoying the scenery as it got light. There was a few instances with deer sightings that led me to believe I had another buck beside me bedded with a doe. Did some crawling around to get a better position with the wind.

Long story short I think I was wrong so I crawled back to my spot as it starting snowing. Now I can’t believe how lucky a man can get sometimes cause the woods are unbelievable to be in when it’s snows. Stayed close to lunch and rattled a few times but nothing came in but it didn’t even come close to dampening my spirit. Love how the horns sound going down the draw as it snows. The snow quietens the area and the horns sound dull but loud at the same time as it goes down the ravine.

Sorry for the excitement fellas but if this weather doesn’t blow your whistle your whistle might be broke…or maybe you’ve lost your whistle. Well folks I gotta go and get back out there…already a few inches on the ground and it’s still falling.

From: Kansan
14-Nov-22
I love the snow. :)

From: keepemsharp
14-Nov-22
Blessed with snow, great. That yote would have died.

From: crestedbutte
14-Nov-22
I know your happy and all but please tell me that your finger made that first hole?

From: be still
15-Nov-22
Well Jason my hands are not that big so:?)….lol how does your brain even come up with the things you say. I can never predict what you and Dave are going to respond with:?)

Well yesterday drove to the west place and ran out of snow. Kind of a bummer. But what was more of a bummer I probably had the coolest encounter or exciting thing happen with a buck but I had forgotten and left my phone in the truck.

I was sitting there with some cedars around me. There was a draw in front of me and a young buck had been chasing a young doe around. Little later what look like a 3 year old 12 point with broke brows come grunting in. Little later another 3 or 4 yr old decent 10 came right in front of my tree to my front left that I’m right against.he was probably around 3 or 4 yards and he stopped cause here comes the other 12. The 12 has his ears laid back and coming directly towards me. When he gets to about 7 yards or so I’m not going to lie I started getting a tad nervous cause with me sitting and no tree in front of me he’s looking down and right at me. I would say he got to about 5 or 6 yards away from and he started doing that sideways but angling forwards to the buck just to my front left but the other buck backed down.

Really thought I was about to see a war literally at my feet. If it started there would have been a good chance that once that they locked up they would have swung around and been hitting the little cedars. Probably would have had to jump back to give them room and probably would have been too scared to break up the fight.

I’ve never looked up into a bucks eyes before sitting on the ground at 5 yards with him looking right at you ready to fight. They look pretty dang mean…let me tell you.

From: MBabs
15-Nov-22
Wowser. That is quite the encounter for sure.

From: ksq232
15-Nov-22
Very cool experience, most of us have hunted for years and never experienced anything like that at ground level!

From: be still
15-Nov-22

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Well November can have some emotional roller coasters for me. Guess I was doing alright until last night I put a card into the computer before I went to bed. I run quite a bit of cameras on several different places up here but so far I didn’t have none that would make my ticker tick. Had one back in August or September but thinking he might be dead already. That all changed last night.

Went to that place today…it’s a little draw with a good little pond with plenty of tracks around it when I scouted it the other day. Figured with it being a dry year probably a decent spot and plenty of rubs up and down the ditch.

I’m in no mood to tell the whole story but just to say again I sat all day on the ground but this time it was the same spot and it wasn’t comfortable since it had a slight forward slope. Since it was it was in the shade all day with the wind combined with the excitement of seeing him with the doe just earlier and knew they were probably close made the sit kind of jittery, shivering, and long.

Anyways thought I was closing the deal twice with the first having the release on the loop before lunch. Second encounter with him was about 45 minutes before dark and was even more exciting but bow never got drawn due to what I’m thinking now was bad luck. Last look was him being being skylined after the doe took him that way. Yeah he got to me pretty good.

Been 2 weeks since I’ve been gone and now that I finally found one to go after I’m getting pressure from back home. I guess 9 years ago I had gotten her flowers when I was hunting Missouri…wonder if that little trick will work again.

From: sitO
15-Nov-22
You're such an artist, I think you should make her a paper mache heart...with an arrow though it. You know, like cupid...not like a dead deer heart ;?)

Good luck on the target buck!

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15-Nov-22

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Missing person report has been filed? You've got 49-50 weeks/year with them but only another week or so to get after your target buck.....they'll "Still Be" (see what I did there) there when you're done!

From: be still
16-Nov-22
I might be somewhat of an artist I guess but that seems hard to make right now but it’s a good idea though. The target buck is all I can think about right now.

When I first seen the pic JasonI was like come on man I don’t need to be seeing this but after your words thats exactly what I’m thinking. Thinking about telling her I won’t come back in December if I can have another week now.

3:26…and I don’t know exactly what to do…trying to get my brain right. Everything is good before I spot a good one cause I love just watching deer and all the other wildlife. All that goes away though when I see one I want pretty bad. I become possessed and I stop enjoying the actual hunt. Don’t like the person I become and it’s kinda sad but I can’t seem to help it. One of these days I’m hoping I’ll get better. Went all day again without food and water and when I got home the old man said well you should be hungry but I wasn’t…had to force myself to eat one slice of pizza.

Well he’s been up for awhile so I’m going to go drink coffee with him and see what he’s got to say. He’s been hunting a lot longer than me… before cameras he said he tried tying sowing thread up and down deer trails in the woods to try and figure out the direction they were going at different times. Said it might have been stupid but he would try anything to try and figure them out when he was younger.

16-Nov-22
Better get that buck killed and get home.

From: be still
16-Nov-22

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Brian I’m going to give it a short run and give it a try anyways.

This morning was good but no sight of him. Had some does come through right after daylight. Later a young broken up 8 pushed a couple of them back through. Around 9 a young one came through walking pretty quick along the draw and then close to 10 a young 10 came along grunting. He cut across the hill though at about 15 yards away. The wind was blowing that direction so I probably knew he was going to smell me. Sure enough I peeked around and shortly he came back around the corner. In these sequences of pics it shows how close he got. The last pic was about 4 yards.

This deer was downwind and closed to that distance. Should have took a video and I was thinking about it but he got so close I didn’t want to make any move to make that happen. He stayed there moving his head up and down then finally turned and decided he better get out of there. So don’t get your nose jammed and buy all that junk they’re trying to sell….just pick up regular coconut body wash and coconut hair shampoo. You can pick it up at the local dollar store. Oh don’t for forget the degree deodorant while your at it:?)

Couldn’t sit there all day today and 11:30 I called it quits. Combine from yesterday my tailbone was starting to hurt…the ground underneath those cedars on that hillside is hard. Don’t like a chair cause when I see a deer that could get close I sometimes get prone with the ground or at least get low as I can. My fellow hunter suggested a cushion but it will just get in the way when I have to curl my feet underneath for the the shot. Going to stuff some extra shirts inside my coveralls on my ass end to soften it up some. Also got cold this morning…only showed 14 but when the wind picked up it didn’t feel all that toasty.

From: be still
16-Nov-22

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And a few more pics of some of the deer this morning and what the country looks out front. It’s pretty open hill country with parts of it being pretty rough. Tough place to bow hunt and it’s going to take some luck to get him on a short hunt. You’ll see a cedar I trimmed an opening in just this morning to my left and just to the left of that is where that little pond is in a low area where a lot of the deer seem to come from.Twice that big with doe was in that area yesterday. Now it would have been a 40 something yard shot and I’m not comfortable taking that kind of shot but I decided I better trim me an opening cause some deer pass through there close. There’s something about a saying you can fool me once and twice or something along them lines….

From: sitO
16-Nov-22
I gotta ask...where's the dang'ol decoy?

From: be still
16-Nov-22
Mine is stuck in the hills on another place about an hour away west and north. I got an old buck over there that’s real wide that if nothing else showed up I was going to use that decoy on him. Nearly left an hour early to go over there cause it’s about 20 something minute drive from the house here to get it this morning. Changed my mind cause I didn’t feel like going through all the trouble. Got that plastic one in the truck but I hate that loud thing. Anything it touches on a calm morning it just echoes and seems to magnify in the hills. I took it out there the other morning but I didn’t leave it cause that’s a borrowed one…and that was before I knew a big one was there.

Might go get mine either tonight or in the morning depending on how this evening goes. Might tote mine in there in the morning. Sure would help and I got a plan in mind with using him.

From: be still
16-Nov-22
Well didn’t take long after getting set this evening that my heart got a giddy up. Doe came right by the cedar running with a slow lope. Got ready and stayed ready for awhile but noper…nothing behind her. Later seen quite a few young bucks criss crossing back and through the hills but no sign of him. Heart got beating when a big dark looking one crossed around the pond right at dark…nope wasn’t him.

Tomorrow morning planning on going to the other big hill place the opposite direction and hunt that place where my buddy is at. Starting to miss him and I’m going to keep him nearby probably from here on out. He’s really not that hard to carry. Don’t really want to shoot that wide one over there but he looks as old as the hills and if he walks by or if he walks towards Ole What’s His Name then….

I might go ahead and add that the target buck over there where I’ve been hunting is not a giant or anything but he looks old and cool. Good main frame but tines are on the shorter side but he has plenty of them. Probably close to being in the 70s so he’s not like a deer of a lifetime or anything but when I got so close to getting him I started wanting him worse. Long brows too.

From: crestedbutte
16-Nov-22
I think you should name that deke “Pip-Squeak.”

From: One Arrow
16-Nov-22
A 70’s buck is a lifetime buck for most people, but I get what you are saying.

I also totally understand becoming obsessed with a deer. Once I find a big one to go after I always go over to my wife, hug her, and apologize for what’s to come over the next few months. Luckily for me she always says “go get him” and listens to my crazy plans.

You’ve never really loved something until you’ve hated it.

From: One Arrow
16-Nov-22
A 70’s buck is a lifetime buck for most people, but I get what you are saying.

I also totally understand becoming obsessed with a deer. Once I find a big one to go after I always go over to my wife, hug her, and apologize for what’s to come over the next few months. Luckily for me she always says “go get him” and listens to my crazy plans.

You’ve never really loved something until you’ve hated it.

From: be still
17-Nov-22
6:40….crested you have to explain the reasoning for that name. Kinda slow here.

Ray I do feel like you know what I’m going through here.

We’ll set up here where y’all have been before. Y’all are going to like this pic here in a bit. I can tell there is still snow on the hillsides. I’ll say it again….gorgeous country.

From: be still
17-Nov-22

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7:38… I know it’s super early but I haven’t seen a single deer yet. Thought at least I should see a young rooter rooting around. Something tells me this time of the year I better check the next hillside…it could be going nuts over there. We’re going mobile…hey it’s starting snow. Woohoo let’s go

From: be still
17-Nov-22
8:07….I’m easing around now. The wind has died down a little and I just spotted my first few deer grazing on a hillside as the snow is falling. Gosh dang it’s a beautiful sight to see deer through the zoom glasses as you see snow falling.

Do I want to shoot a big deer? Yes I surely do… but it don’t feel right to ask for more this. There is lot of people all over the world right now that is in some unfortunate situations and some are even hungry. So for a man to even think about asking for more just isn’t right at all. Im not saying I’m not going to give it a try but just that I’m in a happy place right now no matter what happens and thankful for what I got.

See y’all at lunch time or after dark…let’s go.

From: Dragon
17-Nov-22
What a special place your mind is at.

From: cherney12
17-Nov-22
Amen to that! Good luck!

From: Kansan
17-Nov-22
Enjoying the good Lord’s creation is what it’s all about!

From: be still
17-Nov-22
Well got out of there a little before lunch and later went back west to the other place. Seen quite a few deer against n in the hills but he was a no show.

My fellow hunter shot one this evening so I was happy for him.

From: be still
18-Nov-22
3:52….lol been up for awhile. Shooting a deer sure didn’t stop my friend from waking up early. He was up before 3:00 again.

Well we got 2 days left…told her yesterday that I would probably be leaving Sunday. Since he’s not a giant or anything I’m not going after that one deer anymore but going to the spot where I passed the old deer. Like I said not a high scoring deer but he’s old and I like my chances with him better. Check the camera in that draw and he’s been in there some.

Doesn’t hurt to say that I got lucky and got another pic of a deer that I hadn’t got a pic of since he was in velvet. He has broken one of his brows but he’s still a good one. So I like my chances with hunting an area where that might be 2 that I would shoot now instead of one.

From: Catscratch
18-Nov-22
Good luck! Lots of nice bucks are shot in the last minute.

18-Nov-22
Good luck. Hope you git er done.

From: crestedbutte
18-Nov-22
When you head home Sun…..don’t forget and accidentally leave ole “Pip-Squeak” behind? I am fond of that name as it will have a nice ring to it when you show us future pics of the big-ole buck that he helps lure in.

Definition Pip-Squeak: Considered to be in-significant especially because they are small or young.

What those bucks don’t know is that when they come in to take ole Pip-Squeak out….that the vision of him is actually “the death” of them! Future headlines will read…”Pip-Squeak takes out (insert buck name)”….just need that first one? C’mon Pip-Squeak!

From: be still
18-Nov-22

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That might not be too bad of a name Jason. Kinda like it I guess.

Well I’ve pretty much worn myself smooth out. Today was the 18th straight day for me and I think I’m finally Deered out. I got cold this morning and only lasted till 9:00. Seen a few and one decent buck came through the draw but the brush hid most of his body so I couldn’t get an age on him.

After getting thawed out a little in the truck I went straight to a place that sometimes has good deer movement between 10:00 and noon. Crept to the edge and seen legs and lower part of a deer. Crawled to a cedar but it just ended up being this little Pip-Squeak. At 30 yards I think he finally caught sight of me but decided to go all around me to get downwind and then started walking to me. Got to 20 and stared at me for awhile and then blew and ran only to come back and started peeking over the hill at me. Lol they hate it when you don’t move. I just need an old one to do this.

This evening seen a few but not many…a couple of Pip-Squeaks and one doe. Hate to say it but kinda of lost the energy to go tomorrow but we’ll see how I feel in the morning. Not complaining at all….just tired.

From: crestedbutte
18-Nov-22
Yeah…those Pip-Squeaks would be B&C trophies down in Texas. Here in KS, those that size would have just been weaned, HA!

I’ll be out in solidarity and the cold with ya tomorrow. If I have service where I am at, I’ll send you a text or two to keep that burnt-out mind of yours occupied…..but you got to get out and hunt! Now go to bed….as the 2:30am wake up call with the old man is gonna come early!

18-Nov-22
Wait until you start hunting with one of Mike Dunnaways Wild Horse Creek bow. Those bucks you’re passing now will become trophies lol. Serious though, surely you can tough out 1 more morning at least. I want to see that decoy work for you.

From: be still
19-Nov-22
3:31….Jason he was up just a little after 1:00 this morning. He’s something else man. The only heat in this farm house comes from the floor in the living room. I woke up at 2 something with my room feeling a lot colder than normal. Came out shivering and he started laughing…said he closed the door to my room cause he didn’t want the tv waking me

Tough man though…told him yesterday to wait on me and at lunch I would skin his deer and cut it up. When the cold took me out at 9 yesterday I called him and told him I was on my way. He said it was already done. Went out and hung it in a tree by himself and with it being around 12 degrees you know his hands had to get cold on that meat.

He’s leaving after while and I’m going to miss him. We’ve had a really good time and lots of laughs.

Brian I’m at least going out this morning. I don’t won’t to be saying “What if” to myself on the drive home. Brian I’m still buying one of his bows next year…that reminds me I need to call him pretty soon. Now actually hunting with one might be a good while. I don’t practice enough with this compound that I shoot even.

From: be still
19-Nov-22
4:59…. About to leave. For the last morning going to that same spot that coyote got close. For the west wind at daylight that should work. It’s a bedding area but like I said since it’s the last day I’m going to slip in there and see if I can’t catch an old one slipping through checking on any last does that he might find. I get signal there but since I’m on the ground and could be close to them combine with the cold I probably ain’t going to be giving any updates. Let’s muster up a….woohoo let’s go:?)

From: sitO
19-Nov-22
Git one!

From: Bwhnt
19-Nov-22
Kinda late but here goes...woot woot kill one

From: crestedbutte
19-Nov-22
Gotta love those old floor furnaces. Had one of those in my old house. My mother-in-law had a habit of standing over it to warm her backside….that is until she melted her shoes, HA!

BTW..based on the hours that the old man keeps…you sure he ain’t a VAMPIRE?

From: be still
19-Nov-22

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Lol he goes to bed about 8:00 sometimes maybe a little earlier. My sleeping schedule is going to be all out whack when I get back home.

When my other boots I used to wear would get wet I would bring a chair just to the edge of the grate of the furnace and hang my boots out over it. Worked well. I forgot one time and walked over it barefooted right after it turned off one time….one time is all it took and I’ve never done it again.

Well your pep talk text helped me this morning. Didn’t see anything at the first sit so mid morning I went to the river place. River was beautiful this morning with ice on the edges. I did a still hunt along the edge. This evening I went back west and hunted the hills. Seen lots of deer this evening. This little toot got fairly close and then a mean looking one came by. His horns was super small but his body was fairly decent size.

Alright told her I’m leaving in the morning which I am…didn’t tell her I’m going to sneak in a quick hunt…hehe. Got to go pick my buddy up on the other place in the hills. I really regret not using him more earlier on this hunt but I was busy hitting other places trying to find a good deer to go after.

So I’m going to go in there earlier than normal. I can drive and get pretty close to him. Going to put him in the truck and go back to the gate. Where I’m taking him is on the other side of the place. It’s going to be a long walk with him to get him set up before daylight just to hunt 1 hour in the morning but who knows what might happen. There’s been 2 deer that has been in that draw in the last weeks that I would shoot now…one is that old wide that I passed. I don’t think I would hesitate on him now.

From: sitO
19-Nov-22
Good luck buddy, you had a great hunt no matter what!

19-Nov-22
Yep, couldn’t agree with Kyle any more. It’s sounded like a great hunt all the way around. Good things have happened in the last minutes of the last day of the trip. Good luck in the morning.

From: be still
20-Nov-22

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8:07…well folks I’m in a hurry but I’ll going ahead and describe this morning’s hunt. A little down now cause I’m pretty sure if I wasn’t on a time limit the wide 9 would’ve decoyed in and there’s a good chance I could have shot him. Yeah I got to admit…it stings a little.

Got set up downwind of the draws on top of a hill against a little cedar. A little after daylight a young toot came down the draw and spotted the decoy. Came up the bald hill and came around and got about 7 yards from. A little later I rattled and nothing so I looked at my time. Thought I might have time to take it and ease up to the other draw in case they couldn’t hear cause of the wind.

My set up felt good there too so I rattled and nothing came in so with my time up I got up and turned around and across the the ravine upon top of the big hill skylined was the big wide 9. He looked bigger up there skylined for sure instead of down in the draw like he was when I passed him.

He was straight downwind about 150 to 200 yards away. Don’t know if my movement or my smell got him but he turned and ran. Now if I would have just stayed at my original spot I don’t think he would have got my wind. Gosh dang it folks…that’s the way it rolls sometimes though. Here’s the little toot and the second set up and the hill where I seen the 9.

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20-Nov-22

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In the one pic you can see at the end of my arrow when the little toot spots it he starts coming up the hill.

From: be still
20-Nov-22

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8:49….I’m back at the gate. Folks the story doesn’t end. They know know I’m leaving and now they’re just teasing me. I just drove back there to get the decoy and as I pull up look across a couple ravines and the kinda the direction the wide 9 ran too stands this heavy horn 10. Now I know and seen this deer the other day and I’m guessing he’s or 3 or 4 yrs old so he’s definitely not a shooter but he’s still pretty to look at. He was looking at me but he also kept looking down in another low spot. Kinda makes believe he’s looking at that old wide 9. That big wide 9 makes him look tiny by the way. Rangefinder said he was 379 yards away and he was still standing there as I drove away.

From: KSflatlander
20-Nov-22
Thanks for the ride. Again, kudos on the decoy. Amazing work!

From: Trebarker
20-Nov-22
Great hunt, considering all that you have had to deal with, illness, lack of sleep, sightings and good health. Be safe going home.

From: keepemsharp
20-Nov-22
Been a fun ride see ya in March.

From: be still
21-Nov-22
Thanks again everybody and thanks for following along and Dave I can’t wait to see you and everybody in March. Lots of good people up there…anybody reading this just to let you know you’re going to miss out if you don’t go.

Well this morning was a big change…woke up thinking which spot should I sit today. Realized where I was and then wanted coffee. Told her I was used to having coffee already made for me…Ummm that didn’t go over very well. Probably wasn’t the smartest thing to say:?)

Well we got to wrap this thread up and end it. People might tell me…well as excited sounding as you were trying to shoot that old one on the last day I bet your butt wished you would have shot him when you had the chance. Zero regret fellas.

I go up there trying to take 1st place in trying to shoot a real big old one. So it does sting a little when it doesn’t happen but 2nd place isn’t too bad at all. 2nd place means the buck is still alive to give some enjoyment to other people. Might be at the dinner table one evening with a young boy saying in an excited voice….Daddy I seen a real big buck run in front of the school bus today. Daddy he was wide and it was so cool. It could be an old man at the local restaurant one morning amidst the clanging of coffee cups saying…John I seen a good one down by the creek yesterday evening over at your place. Nice to see a few of them still around. Nope…taking 2nd place and still having an old buck to roam the hills and creeks of Kansas isn’t a bad deal at all.

Oh and by the way I want to say again I really enjoyed hunting with my friend. If you ever find yourself on some gravel backroad in Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, or Colorado and you see dust ahead with you rapidly gaining ground you might want to start slowing down. When you get close and if you see Iowa license plates through the dust with the truck going…oh I’d say around 25mph. There’s a good chance that’s him and you got a good man in front of you. Now you might want to give it gas and fly around him and try to take 1st place in life with whatever you’re trying to do that day. But if you decide to settle for 2nd and just take a slow ride with him that day…you might realize that by the end of the day that 2nd place just turned into a 1st place for ya and that it wasn’t a bad deal after all. Ain’t bad at all.

From: Kansan
21-Nov-22
We’re glad you enjoyed yourself, in our state that we’re blessed to call home. Glad to have you here. :)

From: Catscratch
21-Nov-22
Man, after a month of hunting like that you may need to sleep for a week straight! Hope you had fun and the trip was worth it.

21-Nov-22
It was really fun following you along. Was really hoping to see Ol’ What’s his name bring that old wide one in for you. You must be getting a little age on you, you’re starting to realize the real fun is in the chase more than the kill. Every now and then it’s nice to take 1st, but the older you get the more you realize 2nd ain’t so bad. It’s more about the experience, the friends you make, and the memories. It sounds like you did all.

From: Bwhnt
21-Nov-22
Thanks for posting it was fun to check in.

From: Thornton
22-Nov-22
Dang it man, hunting is getting good. Excellent photos BTW.

From: be still
22-Nov-22
Thornton you don’t tell a man that after he’s been up there for 20 days…just ain’t right. Just heard Kyler say this is the best week…y’all all ain’t right:?) I mean just when I’m content with taking 2nd place and after Brian’s reassurance I was feeling at peace with myself.

I’ve been thinking about you…hoping any day I’ll see a pic of you with one of them 2 bucks.

From: Thornton
22-Nov-22
Well, I haven't seen either one in a while. The neighbor saw the nontypical the other day, and I got a pic of the wide 10 on the 12th while I was out elk hunting. Last two days I've had numerous young bucks rutting around my trees, but I'm going to see it through if I have to hunt til the last day.

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