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Woods Walker 25-Sep-17
Bob H in NH 26-Sep-17
Woods Walker 26-Sep-17
Grey Ghost 26-Sep-17
WV Mountaineer 26-Sep-17
bad karma 26-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-17
Grey Ghost 26-Sep-17
keepemsharp 26-Sep-17
Owl 26-Sep-17
Joey Ward 26-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 26-Sep-17
Annony Mouse 26-Sep-17
JTV 26-Sep-17
Woods Walker 26-Sep-17
Pig Doc 26-Sep-17
Owl 27-Sep-17
Atheist 27-Sep-17
Mint 27-Sep-17
Owl 27-Sep-17
Bentstick81 27-Sep-17
Grey Ghost 27-Sep-17
Woods Walker 27-Sep-17
Owl 27-Sep-17
HA/KS 27-Sep-17
Woods Walker 27-Sep-17
Whitey 27-Sep-17
Woods Walker 27-Sep-17
K Cummings 28-Sep-17
Woods Walker 28-Sep-17
Glunt@work 28-Sep-17
Bowbender 28-Sep-17
Sharpstick 28-Sep-17
Lark Bunting 28-Sep-17
Spike Bull 28-Sep-17
orionsbrother 28-Sep-17
Glunt@work 28-Sep-17
Whitey 28-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 29-Sep-17
Rhody 29-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 29-Sep-17
Sage Buffalo 29-Sep-17
Woods Walker 29-Sep-17
Woods Walker 29-Sep-17
Hackbow 29-Sep-17
Hackbow 29-Sep-17
K Cummings 30-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 30-Sep-17
K Cummings 30-Sep-17
Woods Walker 30-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 30-Sep-17
Woods Walker 30-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 30-Sep-17
Woods Walker 30-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 30-Sep-17
Joey Ward 30-Sep-17
NvaGvUp 30-Sep-17
Joey Ward 30-Sep-17
kps 30-Sep-17
Arrownocker82 01-Oct-17
Franzen 01-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 01-Oct-17
Joey Ward 01-Oct-17
JTV 01-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 01-Oct-17
Scar Finga 02-Oct-17
Remmag 03-Oct-17
From: Woods Walker
25-Sep-17
I hope a LOT of us do this.............I also sent a similar one to Anheuser Busch.

I have friends and family buried at Arlington National Cemetery who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom and way of life. I think of them whenever I hear and sing our national anthem. Now the NFL and the people who work for them deem it fit to disgrace these American heros and I WILL NOT tolerate it. McDonald's is a NFL sponsor so I take it that your continued monetary support of the NFL means that you agree with them. If that's the case then I will no longer support McDonalds, and I visit your stores at least a 1/2 dozen times a week. Please let America know which side you are on. And it CANNOT be both. Thank you.............

From: Bob H in NH
26-Sep-17
going after the sponsors, or even better, the players endorsement deals is the right way to hit them. Getting sponsors to put pressure on the NFL will work, nothing else will

From: Woods Walker
26-Sep-17
$$$$ talks, just like it always has.

From: Grey Ghost
26-Sep-17
I'm more concerned about someone whe eats at Mickey D's six times a week. That sh*t will kill ya.

Matt

26-Sep-17
Email address of where to send it please. With your permission, can I copy and paste this. I'll have to change a few things since I haven't eaten there in about 7 years but, the message will essentially be the same.

From: bad karma
26-Sep-17
The NFL has had to rebate money to the networks because the viewing numbers are down. Money does talk. .

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-17
Sending a letter can't hurt.

However, I believe the advertising contracts companies have with the networks include clauses that call for them to get a refund or credit if viewership/ratings fall below a stated amount.

That puts the real pressure on the networks to stop this crap.

From: Grey Ghost
26-Sep-17
More people watching streamed games on computers and phones have also contributed to the drop in TV viewers. I know I've watched at least 3 games on my phone while at hunting camp this year.

Despite the small drop, the NFL remains a cash cow for the networks, so I don't anticipate much change in programming.

Matt

From: keepemsharp
26-Sep-17
What burns me is that my cable hookup has ESPN on it and apparently I have to pay about $8.00 a month for something I never watch but you can't pick and choose. That's about $100 a year to the kneelers.

From: Owl
26-Sep-17
Dude, you eat at McDonalds 6 times a week?

From: Joey Ward
26-Sep-17
With two kids in college, I'm lucky to eat 6 times a week.

Thank goodness for the $1 menu.

:-)

From: NvaGvUp
26-Sep-17
Funny how so-called conservatives here want to decide how someone else should eat!

So much for believing in free choice!

From: Annony Mouse
26-Sep-17
Keepemsharp... take a close look at streaming. You can almost get what you actually watch on cable, but at a la carte pricing. Many of the cable stations are available as separate subscriptions via streaming.

From: JTV
26-Sep-17

JTV's Link
Directv is now allowing refunds for any of their football/sports packages

From: Woods Walker
26-Sep-17
Not to eat, mainly for coffee or an occasional large sugary drink to keep the liberals pissed off. It's better than smelling some guy's jockstrap though!

WV: I just went to McD's website and clicked on "CONTACT US". They have a form email that you use. I did the same with Anheuser Busch also.

$$$ will be the ONLY way to get the attention of the NFL or the people that sponsor them.

From: Pig Doc
26-Sep-17
Nike is the top of my list to be done with. They are the most outspoken in their support of the unpatriotic, ungrateful, "protesters". They also provide the most monetary support to professional athletes of any corporation out there. You can email them at media.relations@nike.com.

From: Owl
27-Sep-17
It. Was. A. Joke.

-Good grief.

From: Atheist
27-Sep-17
WW is drinking large sugary drink to 'piss offf liberals'. Hahaha. Hey could you step in front a bus, that would make a bunch of us soooo mad! Hahahah. I'd call you a dolt but then a bunch of dolts would take a knee in protest. Ha!

From: Mint
27-Sep-17
It is just so stupid what they are doing. The Anthem and the Flag are apolitical. It doesn't matter if you area republican, democrat, independent, green party etc you should respect the National Anthem and the Flag. I hate that these players have made it political and what makes it worse is that it is based on lies. I'm not a football fan at all but it still makes me sad.

From: Owl
27-Sep-17
I get the purported logic on both sides but, where the issue loses me is that the flag, what it represents and the sacrifices of everyone living under the flag - particularly the military, is more enduring than our respective grievances. Kneeling for the transitory instead of standing more the immutable is logically inverted and, thus, an expression of ignorance. Also, from the life perspective of a middle aged man, Americans are a spoiled lot and griping from center stage just amplifies that beyond bearing.

27-Sep-17
I can tell you one thing.....because of the work I do for some different veterans causes I am friends on facebook with a lot of people who were every kind of military bad ass there is. PJ's, combat controllers, SEAL's, EOD, Army Rangers and Special Forces, fighter pilots, Navy surface warfare and Marine infantry officers....the list is endless. One thing I can tell you for sure.....you better not disrespect the flag in front of any of them. You will find yourself on the way to the hospital. I have never seen anything like it and I'm proud to be of the same thinking with them on this.

From: Bentstick81
27-Sep-17
Once again atheist. Could you put something on here that isn't a lie, or bull$hit??? What a moron.

From: Grey Ghost
27-Sep-17
WW,

Did McDonalds ever reply?

Matt

27-Sep-17
DirectTV announced today they would give anyone who wanted their money back on the NFL ticket where you receive all the games. This could impact the NFL in a meaningful way. Good job AT&T.

From: Woods Walker
27-Sep-17
GG: Not yet, but Anheuser Busch did. They're still stradling the fence waiting to see which way the current's going. I'll post it later.

From: Owl
27-Sep-17
A-B has a lot of marbles invested in the ' Murica!! crowd.

From: HA/KS
27-Sep-17

HA/KS's embedded Photo
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From: Woods Walker
27-Sep-17
Here's the response I got from Anheuser Busch. My take is that it doesn't hurt ($$$) enough yet as they want it both ways. Not happening. Time to pick a side.

"Thank you for your email, we always appreciate feedback from our consumers and take your concerns seriously.

At Anheuser-Busch we have a long heritage of supporting the institutions and values that have made America so strong. That includes our armed forces and the national anthem as well as diversity, equality and freedom of speech. We proudly employ over 1,100 military veterans and we work every day to create an inclusive environment for all of our employees.

Anheuser-Busch has many long-term sports partnerships, including our NFL sponsorship, and while we may not agree on everything, we still believe in the power of sport to bring people together and overcome their differences.

We understand your concerns and will convey them to the NFL.

Thank you,

Anheuser-Busch

From: Whitey
27-Sep-17
And how’s your Bush isn’t even an American company anymore. They only like America for its money. f’m

From: Woods Walker
27-Sep-17
f'm indeed!

From: K Cummings
28-Sep-17
When I drink beer, it happens to be one of the AB brands. While I don't happen to agree with the national anthem protests, or the NFL's reaction to it, my beer choice is not likely to change. If I only did business with companies that agreed with my opinions (political and otherwise) 100% of the time, it would be a pretty small universe of companies that I am willing to deal with...if any at all.

"Straddling the fence?" Of course they are. What company would knowingly and willingly alienate half their potential market? At the end of the day, conservatives drink beer and eat hamburgers, liberals drink beer, socialists drink beer and eat hamburgers, blacks drink beer and eat hamburgers , whites drink beer and eat hamburgers , straights drink beer and eat hamburgers, gays drink beer and eat hamburgers, and even people who are confused about what gender they are drink beer and eat hamburgers. If I was in the business of selling beer or hamburgers, I would want them ALL buying mine.

KPC

From: Woods Walker
28-Sep-17
Of course. But if they had any brains, they would keep the politics out of it and just do what they do best.....make and sell beer. They will NEVER please everyone. And right now, they are NOT in reality "on the fence". They may think they are, but they've made their choice. Now we must make ours.

From: Glunt@work
28-Sep-17
Thats why when you run a business that needs to appeal to everyone, you stay out of political fights. That includes what your employees do while on the clock. A-B is trying, but if the NFL isn't and if the issue grows A-B is already part of the picture and they will have to decide to take a side (bad move), bow out completely (which can be perceived as taking a side) or go on sponsoring and deflecting which can also be perceived as taking a side.

From: Bowbender
28-Sep-17
A-B makes beer? Wow, learn sumthin new everyday. :) I'm already boycotting A-B. Mainstream beer, Yuengling Lager or Black and Tan. Preferred beer of choice right now, Dogfish Head 60 minute IPA.

From: Sharpstick
28-Sep-17
Thursday night game should be telling. Aaron Rodgers wants all the fans at Lambeau to lock arms,don't know about taking a knee though,be kinda hard to do in the stands.

28-Sep-17
Living near St. Louis I drink AB almost exclusively and KPC suggest that will never change.......but I do like me some Yuengling (can't get it where I live) and if I have to drink Mexican beer dos equis works great.

From: Lark Bunting
28-Sep-17

Lark Bunting's embedded Photo
Lark Bunting's embedded Photo
Tsk...tsk...

How many of these did we see at the trail heads this fall?

28-Sep-17
The only trail head you have been to is the one at the dog park, sybil!

Lark Bunting!!!!!

28-Sep-17
I'm finding the new ford trucks ugly and I'm going to sell my F250 pretty soon. Maybe I'll get a GM HD again this time.

28-Sep-17

orionsbrother's Link
Spike - I think you have Tom incorrectly labeled.

From: Glunt@work
28-Sep-17
Lark isn't Sybil. He is a real guy with a freezer full of elk.

From: Whitey
28-Sep-17
My email to McDonald’s said that one if their employees is on here daily pretending to be 40 different people.

From: NvaGvUp
29-Sep-17
I called USAA yesterday and left a voicemail expressing my displeasure and concerns.

To my surprise, they called me back this afternoon.

They said they've been meeting with the NFL daily over the past few days, telling them that the disrespect the kneeling players are showing for our country is totally unacceptable.

From: Rhody
29-Sep-17
GB still got it wrong . Its hand over heart.

Linked arms.... definition of ignorance of our history and patriotic protocols when honoring flag and country..

I quit watching pro football when the Rams went to St. Louis.

From: NvaGvUp
29-Sep-17
The hand over heart thing is a relatively recent change. Until the seventies, I think it was, you simply stood at attention and remained silent.

From: Sage Buffalo
29-Sep-17
I can appreciate the sentiment but it's a bit ridiculous. That car you drive. That phone you use. That store you buy your food from.

They all support causes that you probably don't agree with. So what are you going to do? Live in some hut in the wilderness with loin cloths?

Life is complicated and boycotting can back you into corners you can't get out of. Do as you please but you probably should turn off your internet provider because I can guarantee you they support groups you don't like.

From: Woods Walker
29-Sep-17
I heard back from McDonald's today..............

Hello Lou:

Thank you for contacting McDonald's.

We appreciate being made aware of the issue in your email. Your comments are important and will be shared with the appropriate people at McDonald's.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

Miranda...................................................................................

McDonald's Customer Contact Center

From: Woods Walker
29-Sep-17
You're probably right Sage, but I'm an old fashioned stubborn type, with a long memory.

To this day I WILL NOT buy any Quaker Oats products. After being a father, husband, and an American, I'm a HUNTER next. Those of you old enough to remember an outlandish piece of anti-hunting propaganda TV feces called the "Guns Of Autumn", hosted by one of the biggest lying dirtbags of his profession...Dan Rather...I swore I'd never give them another penny because they were the sponsors. And I haven't. Has it done any good? Who knows. I DO know that it makes me feel better.

From: Hackbow
29-Sep-17
Straight —» Arrow - Yuengling is my go to beer when I can get it (not sold in TX....yet). The good news for both of us is that you can now get it in Arkansas. So an easy trip South for you and East for me and we can stock up.

WRT our boycotting NFL sponsors, I agree that trying to only do business with those whom we always agree is a difficult proposition at best. However, this isn't a nuanced policy difference or a social engineering project. This is blatant hatred for America and all she represents. Even though most of the snowflake protesters (coddled athletes) are too stupid to understand in just what they're participating, they need to be made aware that they have listened to, and sided with, the wrong group from a philosophical standpoint. They are mere pawns and seem comfortable in their role as useful tools.

The only way to get the message to them is to create an uproar. Trump has done that and a lot of offended Americans have as well. Those on the right have conceded many ideological 'red lines' in the hopes of retaining "Unity". Screw them this time. There is no give left. I am done with all professional sports. They have turned into another bastion of the left and there is no difference between them and the vitriolic, leftist mouthpieces in the media or Hollywood.

From: Hackbow
29-Sep-17
And Spike - as Glunt and o'sbro posted, Tom is a real person and a determined, successful hunter.

From: K Cummings
30-Sep-17
"I can appreciate the sentiment but it's a bit ridiculous. That car you drive. That phone you use. That store you buy your food from. They all support causes that you probably don't agree with. So what are you going to do? Live in some hut in the wilderness with loin cloths?

Life is complicated and boycotting can back you into corners you can't get out of."

Sage advice.

KPC

From: NvaGvUp
30-Sep-17
Why would someone drink Bud, Miller, or Coors when there are so many great craft beers available?

From: K Cummings
30-Sep-17
Because not everyone enjoys craft beer. That's a little like asking why would anyone have a hamburger when so many great steaks are available.

KPC

From: Woods Walker
30-Sep-17
My reaction after tasting a craft beer.......Ehh...gimme a Lonestar! Most all of them are overbrewed and ALL of them are overpriced!

From: NvaGvUp
30-Sep-17
"Life is too short to drink tasteless beer." ;^)

From: Woods Walker
30-Sep-17
I think Lonestar tastes just fine! And NO fruit of ANY sort to contaminate a perfectly good beer!

Hell, if you want to drink unpalatable racid fruit, just drink wine. The French invented wine because their water is bad and wine is better than dying of thrist....almost.

From: NvaGvUp
30-Sep-17
"Fruity beers?"

I know of just one and I haven't tasted one of those in over ten years.

From: Woods Walker
30-Sep-17
Many of the "custom" beers around here have lemon, lime, orange and Lord knows what else in them. The one's that don't have fruit in them are so heavy and dense it's like drinking oatmeal, and BITTER........YUCK!

From: NvaGvUp
30-Sep-17
Alaskan Amber

Alaskan Big Mountain

Guiness Blonde,

Big Sky Moose Drool,

Newcastle Brown Ale,

Gordon Biersch Marzen

Try 'em and you'll never go back to drinking Bud/Miller/Coors horse piss.

From: Joey Ward
30-Sep-17
They don’t sell those at the gas station. :-)

From: NvaGvUp
30-Sep-17
You buy beer at the gas station?

Lol

From: Joey Ward
30-Sep-17
Well....yeah! It’s Alabama. :-)

From: kps
30-Sep-17
"Well....yeah! It’s Alabama. :-) " LOL!!!

01-Oct-17
Well this thread went south in a hurry <======<<<<<<< see what I did there? My work here is done. Best regards to all non Liberal, anti criminals that are true American folks and contribute to society and support our hero's of the military and law enforcement. By complying to the laws of our land and not being a$$h073's to everyone else.

From: Franzen
01-Oct-17
I'd guess 95% of the packaged beer I've bought in my life was from a gas station. I don't drink a whole heck of a lot these days, but my standard is Coors; Banquet, not that light stuff. Having said that, I've sampled a few varieties.

I like Salmon Fly from Madison River, but it's only available in MT, ID, WY, & ND. We actually ventured in to a Friar Tuck's liquor about two weeks ago and I bought a variety pack from Big Sky of Missoula. Moose Drool is decent stuff for sure. I enjoy sampling the local stuff when I go on a hunt away from home.

01-Oct-17
What is a craft beer Joey?

From: Joey Ward
01-Oct-17
Not sure, sport. I’ve never been to Hobby Lobby.

From: JTV
01-Oct-17
Heck, when I lived in Texas ('80's), they had drive thru packaged beer to go ...never leave your truck....not sure if they still do that ...

01-Oct-17
We still do here Jeff. What's worse is in the 80's in my small home town, you could get tap beer by the cup or a gallon jug and several cups in the drive thru. Wonder somebody wasn't killed every weekend by a drunk.

From: Scar Finga
02-Oct-17
Moose Drool tastes just like it sounds! Moose Head tastes just like it sounds! I like some of the Pale Ails, Tecate and Dos Equis are good and a few others... But mostly Coor's light or Mich Ultra for me.

From: Remmag
03-Oct-17
You Yuengling guys should try their Premium. Stella Artois is good stuff, also.

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